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what kind & size floor joists needed to span 15 feet?

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#1 ·
I am planning to add a room at the 2nd level above my living room which is currently 2 stories tall.

The joists will span 15 feet. What type of joists are recommended so that the floor won't be bouncy? Different people tell me different things...2x10s, TGIs, LVLs... and I need to decide the best for the money.
 
#4 ·
You need a local Structural Engineer as Ron said, in order to build it safe. Your building department would require this as your family and future occupants are relying on you to build it correctly. Then when you go to sell, you can leave it there. Your Insurance company will cover it if done legally as well.
Hint..... the General Contractors will use a Structural Engineer to take the liability (your family's safety) off of them. Be safe, G
 
#8 ·
Heh, i'm really starting to love everyone saying "structural engineer" for pretty much any question. I've come to grow rather... UN fond of them. Not to knock anyone, I understand their role and importance, and I'm not arguing that, but everyone seems to be WAY too uptight about everything and a simple question goes unanswered, not the case here, as someone did pretty much answer your question and pretty well. There is a little book i got on amazon, it is a flip binder type thing, it's called code check, wonderful book. If it's a 2nd level and you aren't going to be putting elephants up there, i agree that 2x10 or 12 should be fine, of course there might be other factors here and that is assuming you don't have any oddities to your structure, I'd be assuming something very simple, if simple was the case though and you wanted to be extra sure 2x12s at 12" on center would be double overkill, haha.
 
#11 ·
If you are planning on a standard 40 pound per square foot live load, then a 2x10 #2 fir joist will span 14'11" on 16" centers (some charts show longer). To stiffen the floor, go up to 2x12. In either case add bridging. That will help to reduce vibration. It does not increase load bearing capability. FWIW, sleeping rooms can use 30 psf live loads in the calculation. In my opinion, engineered joists or LVLs are way overkill for a 15' span unless you are spreading your centers or planning on an excessive load.
 
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#17 ·
To ress, my reason I stated cross- bridging is better than solid, for what it's worth:

Cross is stronger - it can be wedged into place making a tight connection between joists. This transmits the load more effectively. If there is a 1/16" gap between the block/joist, times 8 block bays= 1/2" of dead space not transmitting.

More importantly, as the article quoted brought out:

"Cross bridging is considered by far the best, as it allows the thrust to act parallel to the axis of the strut, and not across the grain (diagonally) as must be the case where single pieces of boards are used."

I may be nit-picking with engineering facts but now you know my reasoning. How will you be attaching the rims to the middle of the two story studs? Be safe, G
 
#18 ·
Bridging vs. Blocking

Touche, Mr. Gbar. Your engineering results are very valid; but from my experience, i`ve had to pull the bridging to one side to make it flush to the bottom many times more than once, as the spacing in between joists is rarely uniform regardless of 16" or 12" centers. Unless the spacing in between joists is dead-nuts every time, bridging will not work as it should; meaning that you will have to 'modify' it to work in an odd spacing. The result will be a break in the system and will be as useless as tits on a bull. Blocking, when nailed in 3 spots (top, middle and bottom) and cut-to-fit at the time of installation will never have this problem, creating a solid member through the joisting that will be uninterrupted. I have used both methods over a thousand times each and would never opt to use bridging over blocking.