Hi everyone,
I am hoping someone can shed some light on an intermittant issue I have bene having with my trane xe80.
Issue:
Sometimes the unit will kick on, ignite and work perfectly! Sometimes it wont even make it past 10 seconds before the flame extinguishes and it tries two more times before it locks out. For the most part it fails more than it works...id say fails 95% percent of the time...if it does manage to stay on it will bring my house up to 70 deg. which is what i set it to stay all the time. If its at 70 and falls by 3 degress it is supposed to kick back on...well it doesnt, it starts failing and locks out with a code of 2 red flashes.
So I had this problem last year and a flame sensor was replaced...it seemed to fix the issue until now. So i bought another flame sensor and installed it..didnt work...
I called out a professional who did a bunch of ohm meter testing and said everything seemed fine...he "adjusted" my flame sensor and said he fixed it...wrong.
Since i knew the guy who came out he has been tryin to help me save money by coaching me through it..he only charged me for 1 hr of service but has been here a total of 3. He seems to think its my pc board even tho im not getting a internal failure. When the flame is on and starts to fail you here a crapload of clicking noises...like a relay going crazy....
To make a long story short i started replacin the cheaper parts...
what ive replaced so far, forgive me if my terminology isnt correct, but im trying.
1. Flame sensor
2. Igniter
3. the two safety peices (at top and bot near the flame sensor and igniter)
4. P15 (hi-low) thingy to the right of the main gas actuator
5. white rodgers board - (got off ebay...waiting to get another one from the seller to see if he sent me a bad one)
* i found a wire that was hanging from the bundle of main wires and it was touching the hot surface of the fan that blows out the hot air...it went to the high side of the p15 part...so i cut the wire and spliced it back in...the unit came on and was working great but later on failed in the exact same fashion as before.
I also bought me a white rodgers board thinking that my pc board may in fact be the issue. Installed that one and when i plugged it in i got 5 flashing red lights...telling me flame sensed with gas valve off....well i ordered that part of an ebayer so i will be returning it to try my luck with another from him. The only difference between that pc board and my original was the 3 tabs to 4 tabs...my original has 3 config tabs that are all in the on position....the new one has 4 tabs..but they are both the exact same part number and everything. Anyway....so i install my original pc board back in and the thing kicks on great...im thinking well maybe a loose wire...so i sit back and watch my house get up to temp...kicks off....cools down...and than tries to reach temp again...fails...sigh
Ok now....i said before i changed igniters...ive noticed something wierd with the igniters...the tech that came to my house installed one for free...i noticed that when it tried to ignite it wouldnt always just glow orange nicely...sometimes it would be really bright white..like its arcing or something...
well the other day i tried to do more troubleshooting and noticed the igniter wasnt even attempting to come on anymore...so my tech guy put a new one on and boom...ignition....so we have put on 2 brand new igniters and still have the problem with it working consistantly...
just yesterday i go up and turn on the unit and its working great....came home...not working...today i go up and plug it in again and now im having a dead igniter problem yet again...i have another igniter in a box ready to go but maybe there is something in the system blowing out my igniters?
so i let the system fail again to get the code and its right back to the 2 flashing lights.... (no flame) check line polarity....
sorry for writing a novel...any help would be much appreciated
im ready to kick this
ing thing down the street
I am hoping someone can shed some light on an intermittant issue I have bene having with my trane xe80.
Issue:
Sometimes the unit will kick on, ignite and work perfectly! Sometimes it wont even make it past 10 seconds before the flame extinguishes and it tries two more times before it locks out. For the most part it fails more than it works...id say fails 95% percent of the time...if it does manage to stay on it will bring my house up to 70 deg. which is what i set it to stay all the time. If its at 70 and falls by 3 degress it is supposed to kick back on...well it doesnt, it starts failing and locks out with a code of 2 red flashes.
So I had this problem last year and a flame sensor was replaced...it seemed to fix the issue until now. So i bought another flame sensor and installed it..didnt work...
I called out a professional who did a bunch of ohm meter testing and said everything seemed fine...he "adjusted" my flame sensor and said he fixed it...wrong.
Since i knew the guy who came out he has been tryin to help me save money by coaching me through it..he only charged me for 1 hr of service but has been here a total of 3. He seems to think its my pc board even tho im not getting a internal failure. When the flame is on and starts to fail you here a crapload of clicking noises...like a relay going crazy....
To make a long story short i started replacin the cheaper parts...
what ive replaced so far, forgive me if my terminology isnt correct, but im trying.
1. Flame sensor
2. Igniter
3. the two safety peices (at top and bot near the flame sensor and igniter)
4. P15 (hi-low) thingy to the right of the main gas actuator
5. white rodgers board - (got off ebay...waiting to get another one from the seller to see if he sent me a bad one)
* i found a wire that was hanging from the bundle of main wires and it was touching the hot surface of the fan that blows out the hot air...it went to the high side of the p15 part...so i cut the wire and spliced it back in...the unit came on and was working great but later on failed in the exact same fashion as before.
I also bought me a white rodgers board thinking that my pc board may in fact be the issue. Installed that one and when i plugged it in i got 5 flashing red lights...telling me flame sensed with gas valve off....well i ordered that part of an ebayer so i will be returning it to try my luck with another from him. The only difference between that pc board and my original was the 3 tabs to 4 tabs...my original has 3 config tabs that are all in the on position....the new one has 4 tabs..but they are both the exact same part number and everything. Anyway....so i install my original pc board back in and the thing kicks on great...im thinking well maybe a loose wire...so i sit back and watch my house get up to temp...kicks off....cools down...and than tries to reach temp again...fails...sigh
Ok now....i said before i changed igniters...ive noticed something wierd with the igniters...the tech that came to my house installed one for free...i noticed that when it tried to ignite it wouldnt always just glow orange nicely...sometimes it would be really bright white..like its arcing or something...
well the other day i tried to do more troubleshooting and noticed the igniter wasnt even attempting to come on anymore...so my tech guy put a new one on and boom...ignition....so we have put on 2 brand new igniters and still have the problem with it working consistantly...
just yesterday i go up and turn on the unit and its working great....came home...not working...today i go up and plug it in again and now im having a dead igniter problem yet again...i have another igniter in a box ready to go but maybe there is something in the system blowing out my igniters?
so i let the system fail again to get the code and its right back to the 2 flashing lights.... (no flame) check line polarity....
sorry for writing a novel...any help would be much appreciated
im ready to kick this