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9.3K views 11 replies 9 participants last post by  Willie T  
#1 ·
Too often I split the wood while toe nailing.

A) What am I doing wrong?
B) Does the stud need to be replaced if there is a split, it may either be at the bottom on the sill or at the top. The splits run from the nails.

Thanks
 
#2 ·
Are you hand nailing or using a nail gun?

Try starting the nail higher up the stud and not going at such a steep angle.....sounds like you aren't nailing into enough of the meat of the stud

Also, if you are hand nailing, try dulling the point of your 16d nail before nailing. Flip it over and hit the point with your hammer to flatten the point a little, seems to drive easier without splitting the wood.

Replacing the stud will depend on how much damage is actually done. If you blow out 3/4 of the stud then yes you should replace, but as long as the stud is intact and the structural integrity is not effected, then it is okay. Some wood splitting is inevitable, just make sure the stud is secure.
 
#3 ·
Thanks,
Was splitting with nail and hammer, didn't work. Switched to framing gun, didn't work.
I do believe I am not getting enough "meat" and my angle is too steep. Will continue trying to get it right. Thanks for the info on the splitting. I don't think any splits are really bad, but I like to keep everything as quality as can be.
 
#4 ·
#6 ·
One trick that will help you is first tap the nail straight in at about 1-3/4" above the plate. It should be in the stud far enough that it will stick there if you let go of it... about a quarter of an inch.

Then you tilt the head upward to your driving angle (around 30 degrees), and drive it on home.
 
#10 ·
Toe nailing at top end above me, keeps slipping

This is getting on my last nerve. I am pretty much a novice when it comes to carpentry things but have helped my dad my entire life. I have now reached my breaking point. What is the correct way to toe nail a 2x4 to an already constructed top 2x4 without it moving or slipping with each hit?? I am not able to nail it in at the correct marking. Its hard already for me to nail things abovet my head, but on an angle, and loose? Ahh, someone help me!!
 
#12 · (Edited)
Sharp,
With some practice, it becomes easy to put the toe of your boot a couple of inches up on the back side of the stud to be nailed. You hold your foot firmly down on the plate and you reach around the stud from one direction with the nail in one hand, and from the other direction with the hammer in that hand. You'll kind of have your shoulder against the back side of the stud. (You're standing behind the stud, and nailing the other side of it.) The stud will move a little, so start about a half inch back from where you hope to end up. But don't worry if you go a little past the line with those first two nails on the one side... because you will be able to move the stud back when you nail the other side.

Another good method of holding a stud in place is to tap in a nail into the plate on the opposite side from where you will be nailing, right up against the side of the stud. That nail will hold the stud pretty much in place, and it is very easy to pull out.

The guy in the picture is NOT using his toe as he needs to be. His toe won't hold a thing the way he has it so far away from the stud... but that's because he has already nailed the side his boot is on. :)

Click HERE for a sequence of the same sort of pictures.
 

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