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Tankless Gas water heater UPS backup solution

5K views 11 replies 5 participants last post by  lenaitch  
#1 ·
I'm getting a gas tankless water heater installed and the only "problem" I'm thinking with this over my old conventional water heater is hot water during a power outage. I have a generator so I'm really only concerned about getting a few hours max that my wife and kids would possibly need while I'm at work until I can get home to fire up the generator. I'm getting a Noritz EZ111ng installed and on their spec sheet they rate the power specs as follows:
120VAC (60Hz), less than 4 amperes NG: 90W Freeze Prevention 178W

The freeze prevention probably won't ever come in to play since its going to be installed indoors but just how big of a UPS am I going to need. I don't know if the 90W is per hour of use? I'm finding conflicting info - shocker who would have though there would be misinformation on the internet! Some people are saying standard computer UPS will last you a day others saying 20 minutes lol. Anyone have any real life experience with this?
 
#2 ·
You need more of the specs on the power to determine the requirements.

A lot of today's electronics do not like modified or worse sine wave electrical producers.
All UPS's are rated for a load and time period. Increase the load shorten the time.

I would call tech support for your new heater and find out the specs on the power needed to keep the unit functioning
 
#3 ·
I'm not sure what a "standard" ups is. There are all kinds of battery capacities available for a basic 120v, 1400va ups.

The 90w is probably only when it's running. If you're not using water, it's usage is likely a few watts. You'll need to pick a UPS before we can say how long it'll work for.

IE. Something like this will last maybe an hour of heating water. Much longer on standby.

 
#4 ·
I'm not sure what a "standard" ups is. There are all kinds of battery capacities available for a basic 120v, 1400va ups.

The 90w is probably only when it's running. If you're not using water, it's usage is likely a few watts. You'll need to pick a UPS before we can say how long it'll work for.

IE. Something like this will last maybe an hour of heating water. Much longer on standby.

Fair point - I was thinking something like this:

I could go a little bigger if that's not going to get me enough run time like this:

Ideally I would like to have something that could run the hot water for approximately 2 hours over a 24 hour period. That's more than enough than I'll ever need probably. At minimum an hour of water usage over 8 hour period.
 
#7 ·
The idea of a UPS is to give you ample time to back up your work and turn off your computer.....that's it.
Obviously the larger one you get, the longer it will last.
Maybe you should have stayed with a regular gas water heater to avoid this problem.
 
#8 ·
I'm sure I'm not the only one using a UPS for something other than a computer. They're intended for other purposes besides "back up your work and turn off your computer". I just need some time between power going out and firing up my generator to keep my wife happy and since it's a natural gas water heater it doesn't require much energy. I should get about 45 minutes on a 550w 1000va UPS that I just ordered which is plenty, and that 45 minutes is assuming the hot water will be running the whole time. It's not a bad idea to put a line interactive UPS with AVR on a $1500 appliance regardless.
 
#12 ·
The thing with 'Amazon Basic' or 'Amazon Essential' anything is they are sourced from all over the place and any given product might change suppliers depending on where they can get it cheapest. Chances for product or tech support are probably pretty slim. At least with a name brand like APC or CyberPower you can get some level of support.