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4.4K views 16 replies 9 participants last post by  FallandDIYlover  
#1 ·
I am having the most horrid time with Zinsser cover oil based primer. I have used 2 different spray guns (Wagner Flexio 2000 and the Avanti, both are handheld, non airless systems). I have been trouble shooting for close to 4.5 hours via internet videos, online archived forum articles, phone calls to Zinsser/Rustoleum, Sherwin Williams, Home Depot, Benjamin Moore and nobody has been able to help me. The issue I am having is that I am getting a hideous orange peel texture no matter which gun, which setting etc. It’s getting to the point where I am about to lose it completely. Can anybody help me? I am leaning towards the fact that it may just be that the guns can’t handle the oil cover stain primer. Thank you in advance.
 
#5 ·
They always say not to thin it but sometimes reality doesn't work that way. I had to thin my primer before spraying as well. I don't remember the ratio, but I do remember that on my first try I thinned it way too much and got streaks. Just try a small batch, and add maybe 1 Tbsp of thinner to a cup of paint. If that doesn't do it, add a little more and keep going until you get a sprayable consistency.
 
#13 · (Edited)
This is actually very true for a lot of products.

And, the Flexio is a crap product. You wont get a good result from it. Thats good for spraying thompsons water seal, (which is a crap product) and thats about it. And IDK which Avanti you got, but its probably crap too.

However, oil primer isnt supposed to flow to a smooth surface, its supposed to be super sandable, so you can sand it and make it babys ass smooth. As for the topcoats you put over it, thats a whole other ballgame. How about telling us exactly what your doing and post some pics...
 
#11 ·
Agreed, here’s the thing, I literally had my entire basement floor covered in cardboard, brown paper and scrap wood. I tried every. single. setting mixed with another setting, then another with another. It’s definitely the paint. I even ended up finally thinning it and that did not help. Over a period of 30 minutes I added a little bit more and a little bit more thinner after testing each time. I still didn’t get the smooth finish you know and hear of when it comes to paint sprayers.
 
#12 ·
There's a possibility you are not properly using the spray gun....
you may be applying too much coating.

Pick one pump/one gun and learn it.... you have differently performing tools.
practice by painting all the cardboard sheets.

pay attention to when/where you trigger the gun and when/where you release the trigger.
Also learn the proper spray pattern overlap.

Quality spray finish is not as easy as it appears when practiced pros pick up a gun.

Note that Air assisted spraying is a different application technique than what you are undertaking.

Relax a bit. Have fun with it. It's an adventure in learning.

Try this YT page for tutorials....

Spray application tutorials
 
#14 ·
There's a possibility you are not properly using the spray gun....
you may be applying too much coating.

Pick one pump/one gun and learn it.... you have differently performing tools.
practice by painting all the cardboard sheets.

pay attention to when/where you trigger the gun and when/where you release the trigger.
Also learn the proper spray pattern overlap.

Quality spray finish is not as easy as it appears when practiced pros pick up a gun.

Note that Air assisted spraying is a different application technique than what you are undertaking.

Relax a bit. Have fun with it. It's an adventure in learning.

Try this YT page for tutorials....

Spray application tutorials
Thank you! I will check it out.
 
#17 ·
If you have something thats still wet 6 hours later, you are putting WWWAAAAAAYYYYYY too much material.

And I repeat: POST PICS. you're making us guess. SHOW US what it looks like.
I figured out the issue. Cover stain cannot be used in a handheld sprayer. I ended up buying Zinsser BIN shellac primer and it’s flawless.