Hi there,
Here's my first post ever for help, but I really need it!
I'll start up front by saying that I learned a ton from the site I was led to from blogs on this diychatroom! (Pages of Rages: Stuck Moen Shower Faucet Cartridge Replacement http://vivara.net/blog/?p=28). It's indispensible. I was studying the 149 posts there until 4:30am, hoping I understand it.
But either fear or total sleep deprivation has got me now, and I'd like to post my photos and be sure about how to proceed.
In a nutshell, while driving yesterday, I got "the call" from one of my kids saying the shower water wouldn't turn off. Since we've got lots of dated Moen fixtures, I was nearly unfazed as I directed them to the basement to turn the house water off while I zipped home.
OK. When the youngest child finished a shower using the Moen Monticello Posi-Temp Single-Handle Shower Fixture, they turned the lever handle clockwise (from hot-to-cold-to-off) as usual. However, the water kept coming out of the handheld Grohe Tempesta Series shower head. Cold water, since that's the last position of the handle en route to "off."
Child Younger met Child Older in the hallway for help, still holding the lever handle in hand and I got "the call." I show up at home and scope it out, realizing that the metal stem within the valve cartridge has actually broken off. I called Moen to verify the needed part (Replacement Cartridge 1222). Got that at the big orange store for $39.00. I'd printed up Moen's "Illustrated Parts" chart and between the chart and the installation instructions contained with Replacement Cartridge #1222, my husband and I faced reality squarely in that slippery shower.
I had previously purchased a different Moen Posi-Temp Cartridge Repair Kit, Moen part # 98040, which had the white plastic (useless) cartridge remover. It obviously won't work if the cartridge stem has broken off. We were not quite ready to destroy the white vertical plastic visible fron of the old cartridge yet.
We realized our delima and stopped our attempts until I could gather more information. So I stayed up all night finding and reading the info from the pages of Rages site; trying to digest what I needed to have to proceed with getting our old cartridge completely removed.
To the best of my knowledge, I will need WD-40, a size 6 screw extractor or a 1/2" screw (aka "tap"?) and a 1/2" bolt, along with the plumber's grease. I think we'll have to go ahead and lift out the copper stop kit pin, save it), and break the white plastic front of the old cartridge so we can get closer to getting the broken one out. Have I missed anything?
Please look at the photos I pray I can attach and let me know! Laundry, dishes and toilet flushing are going to come sooner than I know, with a family of six...and i'd just like to wash my hands while I'm cooking pot roast right now, too!
Gee, what a downer. My photo filesize is too large and I can't manage to shrink them. to the 100KB (!) size required to attach them. I'd gladly email them to anyone who can help me post them or wants to see them.
Appreciate any advise or encouragement!
Here's my first post ever for help, but I really need it!
I'll start up front by saying that I learned a ton from the site I was led to from blogs on this diychatroom! (Pages of Rages: Stuck Moen Shower Faucet Cartridge Replacement http://vivara.net/blog/?p=28). It's indispensible. I was studying the 149 posts there until 4:30am, hoping I understand it.
But either fear or total sleep deprivation has got me now, and I'd like to post my photos and be sure about how to proceed.
In a nutshell, while driving yesterday, I got "the call" from one of my kids saying the shower water wouldn't turn off. Since we've got lots of dated Moen fixtures, I was nearly unfazed as I directed them to the basement to turn the house water off while I zipped home.
OK. When the youngest child finished a shower using the Moen Monticello Posi-Temp Single-Handle Shower Fixture, they turned the lever handle clockwise (from hot-to-cold-to-off) as usual. However, the water kept coming out of the handheld Grohe Tempesta Series shower head. Cold water, since that's the last position of the handle en route to "off."
Child Younger met Child Older in the hallway for help, still holding the lever handle in hand and I got "the call." I show up at home and scope it out, realizing that the metal stem within the valve cartridge has actually broken off. I called Moen to verify the needed part (Replacement Cartridge 1222). Got that at the big orange store for $39.00. I'd printed up Moen's "Illustrated Parts" chart and between the chart and the installation instructions contained with Replacement Cartridge #1222, my husband and I faced reality squarely in that slippery shower.
I had previously purchased a different Moen Posi-Temp Cartridge Repair Kit, Moen part # 98040, which had the white plastic (useless) cartridge remover. It obviously won't work if the cartridge stem has broken off. We were not quite ready to destroy the white vertical plastic visible fron of the old cartridge yet.
We realized our delima and stopped our attempts until I could gather more information. So I stayed up all night finding and reading the info from the pages of Rages site; trying to digest what I needed to have to proceed with getting our old cartridge completely removed.
To the best of my knowledge, I will need WD-40, a size 6 screw extractor or a 1/2" screw (aka "tap"?) and a 1/2" bolt, along with the plumber's grease. I think we'll have to go ahead and lift out the copper stop kit pin, save it), and break the white plastic front of the old cartridge so we can get closer to getting the broken one out. Have I missed anything?
Please look at the photos I pray I can attach and let me know! Laundry, dishes and toilet flushing are going to come sooner than I know, with a family of six...and i'd just like to wash my hands while I'm cooking pot roast right now, too!
Gee, what a downer. My photo filesize is too large and I can't manage to shrink them. to the 100KB (!) size required to attach them. I'd gladly email them to anyone who can help me post them or wants to see them.
Appreciate any advise or encouragement!
