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How to bend 1 3/8 inch steel pipe?

5.3K views 18 replies 10 participants last post by  Nealtw  
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Hi guys, I am not sure how appropriate this question is here, but it is a DIY issue.

I am building my own 20 by 10 gothic greenhouse from scratch and the part that has me concerned is bending the 1 3/8 inch steel pipe that ihave for it.

I need to make a bend on these pipes so I get that gothic style greenhouse. These are 10 foot pipes, the width of the greenhouse is 9 feet and I would like it to be 7 feet tall in the center of the greenhouse, but I do not know what to bend it with, meaning if EMT benders out there are sufficient. I do not know how far down from the top or the bottom to start the bend.

Thank you in advance for your help.
 
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#17 ·
I just went to a rafter calculator and just plugged in the run of 42" and pitch of 3/12 and it gives something you could work with, how that would apply to pipe would require some testing I guess unless you can fine a similar program for pipe.
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I thank you for this effort. I love when things are done in a logical, calculated manner. WIth that said, because I had not seen this before. I had to eyeball it. What I did was purchase a bender that is made for bending gothic style arch bows and so if I had a 10 inch 1 3/8 steel pipe, I would measure ten inches down from the top of the pipe and place that marker in the strapped part of the bender and then bend. I would measure 10 inches from there and do it again, to where I would do it five or six times. I am still unclear if I should do it five times or six times, but definitely a minimum of five bends. One of the reasons I am unclear is because where my greenhouse currently is, one side of the ground is a big higher than the other. Now the toe kick boards of the greenhouse are leveled, but the ground is not. I then screw a hole through the toe kick boards and steel pipe and strap it in tight with a 1/4 inch by 4 or five inch carriage bolt. The five inch carriage bolt is okay for the four corners, but for the rest I need something smaller than 5 inches but bigger than 2.

So far the first bows worked. So I am working with a combination of 10 1/2 feet steel pipe and 10 foot steel pipe. For the 10 1/2 foot steel pipe I am measuring 10.5 inches on the bends and again doing five or six bends. I forgot how I did the first bows that are successfully on, but I have a follow up question:

I have to install some pearlines and the gable peak you see below takes 1 3/8 inch steel pipe at the beveled or crimped end, but do they sell 1 3/8 steel pipe that is beveled at both ends that are also a minimum of four feet long? Or do I have to purchase steel pipe and cut it to size myself? If I have to do the latter. What size pipe would I need since I cannot fit an unbeveled 1 3/8 pipe as a pearline into the gable peak you see below. I would need something a size smaller. Would that be a 1 1/4 inch steel pipe or a one inch steel pipe and do they exist in 4 foot lengths or do I have to cut them?

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#3 ·

A 1-3/8 pipe would be uncommon but there are charts available for pipe bending. If you can find a bender for that pipe it may have instructions .
A alternate method for that angle could possibly be a acetylene torch if you know when and where to heat .
 
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What kind of pipes? Where are they coming from?

Is this like black iron gas pipe, silver colored fence post, or EMT conduit or muffler pipe or what are we talking about here? Where did you come up with the size 1-3/8"? Is this outside dimension or inside dimension? Do you actually mean 1-1/4"?

If I had to guess, I'd say that you're really dealing with some type of thin-walled 1-1/4" pipe.

Either way, here's a link to one from Harbor Freight which might get the job done. 12 Ton Hydraulic Pipe Bender
 
#13 ·
What kind of pipes? Where are they coming from?

Is this like black iron gas pipe, silver colored fence post, or EMT conduit or muffler pipe or what are we talking about here? Where did you come up with the size 1-3/8"? Is this outside dimension or inside dimension? Do you actually mean 1-1/4"?

If I had to guess, I'd say that you're really dealing with some type of thin-walled 1-1/4" pipe.

Either way, here's a link to one from Harbor Freight which might get the job done. 12 Ton Hydraulic Pipe Bender
Its chain link fence 1-3/8 in. diameter, 10 foot long 17 gauge galvanized steel top rail post.
 
#10 ·
Kudos for making a gothic arch, let's just get that out of the way. My fave!
They are a simple radius with the center point offset down the ground plane, and the distance determines the shape of it. Closer to the middle, it is more of a barrel. Farther out, it is more of a point.
The trick with bending a big radius is staying in-plane with all the small bends. One of my friends made a barn/shop/home with a big radius and I will go look at his tools and get back. His was much bigger and thick walled tubing so your little greenhouse will be easier.
 
#12 ·
Thank you. To provide more detail that may help you help me, The high tunnel is 9 feet wide and I want the peak of the tunnel to the ground to be no more than 7 feet tall give or take. I am also using that shelter logic angle thing to insert the tubes in there as well as the pearlines. I believe I bought them from Shelter Logic but for some reason I did not think to get end ones.
 
#15 ·
That is about an 8' radius. I figured that out with some small bowls and graph paper, and scaled it up.
The radius is perpendicular to the ground plane to start. When it reaches 7' up on the graph it is about 4.5' over which is what you are seeking.
The foci are 3.5' away from your arch centerline.

I would make a plywood template and cut a couple of pieces of 3/4 ply and screw them together, and bend the pipe around that if you want it DIY it. The template does not need to be full size, just do segments or bites of the bend at a time. How you bend it is up to you.
 
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Some visuals of what you are sharing in terms of unit of measurement like unfortunately I am unfamiliar with what you mean by foci. I am really a beginner in bending pipe for any kind of greenhouse. Also, I cannot completely visualize what you are suggesting with the plywood, but let me share this with you, Johnny Seeds has a hoop bender specifically for a gothic arch, but its made for 14 foot wide spacing between the bows, at the base obviously. Could I make that work for a 9 foot wide spacing?