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Can I raise these joists in my garage?

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#1 · (Edited)
I've tried to capture the joist in these pictures. I'm not familiar with the way these are hung. They are sitting on the top sill plates, and hanging from the ridge. They move rather easily, and don't seem to be bearing any load. I'd like to remove them and replace them with collar ties a foot or so higher up, like the one closest to the garage door. Any foreseeable issues with doing this?
 

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#3 ·
The tie closest to the door isn't sitting on the sill, but the other three are, and they aren't attached to the rafters. They just sit on the sill and hang from the ridge. Never seen this before. I think I'll just remove the lumber that hangs from the ridge, cut the joists a little shorter, move them up a foot or so, and attach them to the rafters.
 
#7 ·
No engineer here either.



Joists serve 2 functions; to keep the roof from spreading (flattening out) and to keep the walls from bowing.



Block walls don't bow like framed walls and up one foot would not make any real difference for a collar tie. I tend to over build sometimes so I would be inclined to run one on every set of rafters. If use use 2x stock rated for the span the vertical support would not be needed.


If Neal (retired framer) posts,pay more attention to what he says than what I say.
 
#8 ·
No engineer here either.



Joists serve 2 functions; to keep the roof from spreading (flattening out) and to keep the walls from bowing.



Block walls don't bow like framed walls and up one foot would not make any real difference for a collar tie. I tend to over build sometimes so I would be inclined to run one on every set of rafters. If use use 2x stock rated for the span the vertical support would not be needed.


If Neal (retired framer) posts,pay more attention to what he says than what I say.
The tie is never big enough for the span so it is hung from the peak.
Every four feet is fine but they should have been nailed to the rafters.
I wouldn't trust a block wall to take a side load.
 
#13 ·
Related question before I start on this: I plan to install an electric garage door opener. I've never had a garage, so this is new to me. I'm guessing the opener needs to be installed level with the top of the door? This would mean I'd need the rafter ties at a minimum height in order to install the motor and have clearance for the belt. Is this correct?

(I noticed the 'building and construction' sub, which is where I should have posted this)
 
#15 ·
As long as the rafter meet the minimum clearance needed for the opener you will be fine. If the rafter are higher up they will just install hangers to get the motor unit at the correct height. Higher rafters just means longer hangers.
I need to make sure I meet the minimum clearance. If the door is 7ft, the rafter tie would need to be over 7 feet high to allow for the motor/belt? So, maybe around 8 feet would be safe for the rafter ties. I just want to make sure my assumptions are correct.