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Best Way to Secure Short Wrought Iron Railing System to Brick Steps

13K views 12 replies 5 participants last post by  Curmudgeon10  
#1 ·
My just purchased home needs a wrought iron railing for the three step entry front porch. The railings I am looking at all attach through plates on the bottom of the vertical pieces ("newels" if they were wood, I suppose) with four bolts to be sunk into the brick.

I installed the same sort of system at my last house, but it failed because the stress on the railing from use overcame the holding power of whatever I used to fix the bolts into the holes in the brick. Obviously I used the wrong stuff and don't want to repeat that this time.

What's the best way to permanently attach the railing to the steps (overhang on the sides of the steps prevents an attachment there).
 
#5 ·
I haven't purchased anything yet. I get the idea of drilling through the brick into some solid surface, and that's what I tried on my last house, but the holes went through to voids. I also understand I could build a simple wooden railing system abutting the left edge of the step with posts in the ground but I hate the look.
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#3 ·
While Tapcons will work in the right conditions, wedge anchors are much stronger. Anything that mounts flush will be a compromise. The best way is to core drill the concrete and bury the iron into anchoring concrete. Will the upper section mount to the wall? That helps a lot.
 
#4 ·

Hope that helps. Common sense says railing will not hold in bricks. You will have to drill into base under the bricks but most such stairs use blocks. You may have to rebuild parts of the stairs, filling the core of the blocks. I would not use small screws. I would have looked for railing system without the base plate for screws. Rather, just longer post so it can be sunk into solid base.
If just 3 steps, seems post doesn't need to be in the tread. Return what you have and buy one with post that can be anchored to the landing. Maybe custom made. Landing may be easier to rebuild, reinforce, already strong enough if it is concrete pad.
 
#6 ·
Anchoring to brick will work if it’s done right, especially if the upper end can mount to the wall. Here’s one I did 10 years ago and still holding up fine. It’s mounted to the block below and brick laid around it
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#7 ·
You need an 8” L shaped piece on top, then bury the lower post in concrete, that would last a long time. Use the wall on the left to mount the railing, and you will need one surface mount to the brick pavers, guarantee that will hold.