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Best primer for new drywall? Best adhering?

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#1 ·
Hi all, new member here. We're midway through a renovation. I previously primed new drywall in our basement with Kilz Drywall Primer and finished with two coats of SW Super Paint Satin. That paint is peeling, which is a real heartbreak, but not the subject of this post.

I want to use something different and better for the upstairs. The SW store recommended their multi-surface primer. I've seen Zinsser Bullseye recommended here and even Zinsser Gardz. What are the pros and cons of the different options?

I'm once bitten, twice shy and really don't want to go through more problems with paint not adhering well to new drywall.

Thanks so much for reading!
 

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#9 ·
Since your other drywall project was in your basement there could be issues with moisture. You need a plastic vapor barrier at the least to keep moisture from migrating into and through the walls. Also could be foundation leaks. I said all of that because it’s very unusual for paint to peel off of drywall. Even if you didn’t remove dust properly, the primer usually mixes in with the dust and still sticks to the paper facing of the drywall. I wouldn’t worry too much about primer adhesion on your latest project, as long as you have a clean, sound surface.
 
#11 ·
Drywall is faced with paper. Paint sticks very well to that textured paper, and also to drywall compound. Drywall primers are pretty much misunderstood I think. If you have a failing issue, there is some other problem.

Most modern paints are "self-priming" so to speak over bare drywall. Which is to say, you don't really need to prime drywall. If you have some problem, figure out what the problem is and fix that, either with a primer or some other way. Fresh drywall shouldn't have any problems.

If you want a true sealer, Gardz is possibly the best. Many drywall primers have some sheen which makes paint adherence worse, and you just have to sand them.
 
#12 ·
Hi all, new member here. We're midway through a renovation. I previously primed new drywall in our basement with Kilz Drywall Primer and finished with two coats of SW Super Paint Satin. That paint is peeling, which is a real heartbreak, but not the subject of this post.

I'm once bitten, twice shy and really don't want to go through more problems with paint not adhering well to new drywall.

Thanks so much for reading!
I use PVA Primer on every new sheetrock/drywall. PVA Primer is specialized just for that.

It is what I also use before and after surface texturing too.

-- It is cheap
-- Never have a recall or a issues with it.
-- Use several brand including SW and what ever in special at Lowes or HD.
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$58 for 5 gallons.

At that price, you can apply 2 coats pretty easily.

It is only for new drywall or "new texture". It is not the best primer for already painted surface or wood.
 
#15 ·
Here, we are doing mostly textured wall. I like PVA for that. It is sold to us as a Primer and Sealer. But, if I only put flat or eggshell I might use another Primer type or some cheap semi-gloss white paint on top of the PVA.

For Crazy thick texture (3/8"), a few PVA coats might not be enough to prevent paint ghosting. That the only issue we did have with PVA and SW.

Several years ago, we did have some issues with Zinsser giving us false VOC numbers or refusing to give one. I lost a big customer. Since then, I have banned Zinsser from job site, except the BIN that is sometime requested by some Insurance company (that I generally replace by SW Shellac). We did ban Rust-Oleum for anything that is not metal or some shiny 3000 grit polish. Even that, we use many others brand now.

Might be a function of the type of Client we do have. Many ask for zero or low VOC for all product.