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Andersen Double Hinged French Door Problem

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#1 ·
Has this happened to anyone?

The 3 point lock on an Andersen double hinged french door bought 2 years ago has a problem. When the door is opened from the outside, the lower catch pushes out. This happens after the door handle is released causing the lower catch to push out and protrude from the door. Then, when the door itself is pushed to close, the lower catch being extended about an inch or so, hits the surface of the opposite door and the door is prevented from closing and bounces back open (often unnoticed while the person walks away). The door handle is the very heavy bronzed type and it seems the momentum from the weight of the handle springing back up when released, causes the bottom catch to push out, as though the handle were pulled up which is the normal way the top and bottom catches are extended. How is this adjusted to prevent the spring of the handle's release from pushing the bottom catch out?

Thanks for any help on this. One time the door was left open all night in cold weather because of this.

Tim
 
#5 ·
Hey Guys,
I also have a problem with an Anderson Frenchwood door. The handle drops down and won't stay up. I took the whole thing apart to find that there is a small torsion spring inside the lock mechanism that broke. I called Anderson for a replacement spring...which should be like maybe a buck...and they said I have to purchase the entire mechanism for $172.00!! I'm thinking about looking around at hardware stores or even calling a spring company, but does anyone know off hand where I can find one?

Thanks,
Russ
 
#7 ·
Russ, you need to go back where you bought the door and tell them-get the glass date and size of your door and glass viewing area- ask to get hold of your andersen rep from the dealer-usually you get 120 days from the purchase date for free service on initial quality- and you have a 10 year warranty on parts- you could call back to 888-888-7020 and speak to tier two and explain your story-you should be able to get new parts at no charge
 
#8 ·
Looks like I'll give them another try.

I gave this lady all of my info...
The number on the glass...CIG-2 3-92

I even went as far as to give her the part number on the part where the spring is located which is 7174A-41

She put me on hold several times and still said that I have to purchase the entire mechanism. I even explained to her that the whole set-up is under a cover that is accessable by removing a few short phillips head screws...which kind of leads me to believe that you should be able to replace certain parts under the cover.

Almost makes me wish she pulls into her local garage with a faulty spark plug, and the mechanic tells her that she has to purchase a new engine!

Thanks for the reply,
Russ
 
#10 ·
Russ, Sorry Buletbob is totally correct 1992 door is out of warranty doesn't matter if it would 've been anyother window MFR- Pella, Marvin, Kolbe Kolbe, Weathershield, Crestline, 10 years on parts and 20 years on glass- Cars do not have warranties that last that long - 10 years Kia - but at least you can still get parts - most would've had to replace the whole door most MFR's would not have parts or would be out of business
 
#12 ·
How does a door bought two years ago have a date 17 years ago?
tconway? What's the story?
Ron
Ron,
I think you're confusing the original poster of this thread with me. My door is from 1992...the OP's door is two years old.

Well, I just got off the phone with a level two person "Mark" at Anderson and he also said that I have to buy the whole assembly. I don't expect the part to be warranted. I just want to purchase the spring that broke! If anyone can put me in touch with someone that might have this spring, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Russ
 
#21 ·
Spring for Fruitwood Andersen broken lockset spring

Has anyone been able to find a replacement spring for the 7174A-41 Multipoint lockset? I noticed eBay has numerous vendors seeing various springs compression, but I lost the broken spring and don't have the dimensions of the needed replacement spring. I too have contacted Andersen and the want to sell the entire lockset for $172., which is too rich for my blood, seeing all I need is a one dollar spring.
 
#23 ·
Posting a photo of the spring would help.
I had an issue with the screen latch for the double screen doors on the French doors and just bought a bag of springs from Amazon to replace the broken one.
 
#24 ·
I just had new Anderson exterior french doors installed. One of the doors will not remain open. If you open the door 90 degrees and release your hand from touching the door, the door starts to slowly close. The other side will remains open. Is there any adjustment I can make to resolve this?

Thanks in advance
 
#25 ·
You may get more response if you start a new thread, this one is old.

If your door will not stay open chances are the wall is out of plumb. You can make the door stay in one spot if you take the hinge pins out and bend them slightly. If it still doesn't stay open bend the pins a little more.
 
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#26 ·
OK DIYs. My name's Ted and I'm new here, but had this experience and want to share. The mechanism can be repaired and you can save yourself about $200. My torsion spring in my Frenchwood door broke and I had an early enough model (1995) that still had an access cover on the lock box. I also had the bolt spring break 2 months later and was able to repair it also.

I located the handle torsion spring from a guy who posted on this site over 20 years ago and was able to contact him and he has torsion springs available. Turned out he lives only 30 minutes from me and I was able to go meet him and get a spring.

A word of caution: The handle torsion spring MUST be preloaded when you install it. It is very easy but it MUST be done. If you don’t preload it, when you shut the door and activate the latch lock the first time, you will not be able to unlatch it and the door mechanism will not be accessible because the screws will be covered. Ask me, I know from experience. The only way to get the door open was to carefully saw off the top and bottom latch hooks – not easy. I was so excited when I had the new spring in I didn’t think to try the door BEFORE closing it. All is well though and it is now working –the door pulls in and seals nicely without the latch hooks. If someone really wanted to break in, they’d just break the glass anyway.

The bolt spring is different and about 3/4” breaks off where it wears on the lever inside the mechanism box. It is made of appx 18 gauge spring wire. To fix it I had a 3/8” long stainless steel ferrule from my fishing tackle that was appx 17 gauge ID. Stainless is not solderable so I mixed a bit of JB Weld and forced it into the ferrule, slid it onto the spring and put the broken piece in the other end and let it dry for 24 hours and voila! If you lose your 3/4” of broken spring then use a 3/4” wire brad with the head ground off. This spring goes on easy and the preload is obvious.

If you can do the repairs it is well worth it in just the fact a new Andersen mechanism will not have an access cover, making repairs near impossible, unless you want the challenge of rivet removal, etc.

Contact information for Charles Baker who can supply you with a spring is: budscarp@aol.com or you can contact him by cell at: 231-631-4143. He is readily available and helpful. $25 but worth it, considering the alternative.