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12gauge to light switch the 14 gauge to lights

762 views 18 replies 6 participants last post by  Ranckie  
#1 ·
My source is coming from a 12 gauge wire to the light switch. Then from switch to lights is 14gauge. Is this acceptable? if not, ill just change the 14 to a 12 go that route since it would be easier than changing 12 to 14.

The lights will be led lights to a bedroom.
 
#3 ·
I agree with HotRodx10 and I would also add that if leaving the 14 gauge wire in place I would label the breaker as having 14 gauge wire. Later someone might see the 12 gauge wire on the breaker and assume that the circuit can handle 20 amps.
 
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#14 ·
I agree with niles on this, a violation but not a real big deal especially on fixed equipment and not on circuits with outlets.
I opened up a kitchen fixture a while back,,, had a 16 lamp cord for a switch loop. I still wonder about the installer,,, was he being a slug or really understand theory well enuf to know its true risk?
 
#15 ·
The draw is the main issue in this sense and for this crowd. Nothing in the code says its rated for rodent chew or really says much about a pinched wire and circuits above 30 even allow smaller ground wires as does most of the equipment connected to 20A circuits.
The whole system is based on the connected load. "The expected electrical draw of the fixture is not the main issue, the main issue is protecting the wire from overheating if something unexpected happens."
The design of the connected equipment protects the wire or the wire is sized to carry the load with a safety factor and really the only time the breaker provides thermal is circuits with multiple outlets. Having said that,,,, not that it wont open on thermal but its not to be used as a thermal limiting device for circuit design. You can wire a 30 circuit with 14 wire,, not to an outlet but to equipment with an exception to outlet for welders.
I mention this in another thread, saw it a while back, wasnt a real big deal was to light fixtures.
 
#16 ·
UL listed equipment must have design to limit thermal to legally connect to the grid. Might be as simple as wire size. Might be a fuse like modern xmas lights. Maybe thermal like a power strip has,, protects those outlets from heat but the circuit breaker is still the fault protection,,, the pinched wire/clamp situation.