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#1 ·
hi,

is RYOBI a good brand name tool? home depot has a sale on a ryobi battery powered circular saw (5 1/2") and two speed drill, with one battery and charger, for $49.95. 18 volt.

thanks,

bob
 
#2 ·
I also saw that sale ad. It all depends on how much and what you are going to be using it for. I have an OLD Black and Decker 12 volt that has been a great tool for around the house. Hate having only one battery though. Seems like when I use it for any length of time, I have to take an hour off to recharge. It bothered me that they can offer the drill AND saw for that low of a price.
 
#3 ·
hi folks,

well, i went and did it! i bought the RYOBI 18 volt drill and circular saw set. $49.95 at home depot. i dont use tools like this 8-10 hrs a day, 7 days a week. im a backyard diy'r, so if they last a yr or 2, what the hay! i spend more than 50 bucks on beer for just one weekend, and that just gets me in the dog house, well at least now i can build a decent dog house!!!:laughing:

bob
 
#6 ·
As a professional remodeler, I use a large number of tools, mostly corded. Hitachi, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, DeWalt, Bosch, Fein, and even a Festool RO sander. One of my cordless tools is an 18V Ryobi. I use (and abuse) it daily now for three years. Best bargain I have ever gotten in a tool.:thumbsup:
 
#7 · (Edited)
hello again!

well, there are mixed reviews, just like anything. i figure for 50 bucks, hey, lets face it, 50 bucks isnt a whole lot of money. so if it fails prematurely, fine, toss it! ill know better next time. ive seen these tools sell seperately for about $40-45 each, so moneywise, its an attractive deal. but i went into this knowing that it might blow up in my face. if it were a porter cable, dewalt, etc... which u pay top $$$ for, it better last!!!! bottom line, u get what u pay for!...bob:yes:
 
#9 ·
Bobo, You will probably be happy with your purchase since it isn't something you use everyday. As I stated in my previous post, my B&D has given me great service for what I paid for it. I have even thought about going to HD and get me one of those combos.
 
#14 · (Edited)
This is what I have heard as far as who owns what. Black and Decker is an umbrella company for B&D, DeWalt, Delta and Porter Cable. TTI owns Ryobi and Milwaukee. TTI has an exclusive contract with Home Depot for Ridgid (by Emerson) and Ryobi. Bosch owns Skil. Craftsman has many companies make their tools but they change the quality of the internal workings to fit their price range. Sears is starting to upset buyers with the way their guarantee works. Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life BUT they now try to change the way it works. If you take a broken ratchet to Sears for replacement, you may find the counter person handing you a repair kit for you to install. I also had to argue and get the manager to replace a broken screwdriver because the counter person said it was not covered because it was part of a set and they didn't carry single tools from sets. I did get it replaced but I really hate hassles with uninformed sales people.
 
#15 ·
ok, heres hte low down on Ryobi from a professionals stand point. I'm a contractor, I have 5 guys that work for me in the remodel and renovation trades, We dont do heavy commercial, but we still work our tools and abuse them.
I use to have a contract with Dewalt years ago for testing and reviews of new products, my van was litterally filled with all Dewalt products. My van got stolen in SC on a renovation product I was on about 5 yrs ago. At the time, I wasnt about to run out and spend 10k to buy all new dewalt supplies, I took a chance on Ryobi just so I could complete the job, I bought a few standard 4pk kits for my guys for 200 a piece, and the Large JobSite unite that had 6 tools including a cordless chopsaw.
I was actually quite impressed, they were durable and strong, alot better then what i figured i'd be getting for the buck, alot better then skill or firestorm in the same price range.
Now to be honest, i have only one gripe with Ryobi, and that was thier batteries, they tend to go weak fairly fast when doing heavy loads, and when I say heavy loads, i mean for instance if it was a demo job and I was cutting through multiple 2x10 rafters with the cordless sawsall, then the ryobi would die after about 5 rafters, where as my Dewalt would cut 6-8 before getting weak. But at the same time, A 18v Dewalt battery costs 75 bucks, and you can get 2 Ryobi batteries for 40, so it's not an issue to have multiple batteries around. Besides, lets be honest, If it's a major site and your doing heavy cutting like say 70 rafters, then you'd be running cords anyways.
Alot of residential contractors are becoming fans of ryobi also. I dont care what name is on it, after a year goes by and the drill has fallen off ladders, and roofs, etc.. etc... it needs to be replaced, so you have a choice, another 300 for a dewalt, or 50 for a ryobi. So you'll find alot of crews now being supplied with Ryobi brand tools.
Commercial is a bit different, they have the coorperate funds to have that kind of purchasing power, and the field is different, theyre running lags into concrete all day, instead of installing drywall or countertops vs. residential.
In a situation like that in commercial, you'll need the high torque and stronger batteries, but again, the companies supply those, so if your looking for something for youself, Ryobi is absolutely the way to go.
I'll be honest, I do both commercial and residential contracting, if i'm on a commercial site with alot of union guys around, I'll pull out my dewalt 6 piece in kit in hardcase, looks like a military case and instantly impresses, but thats merely for impression, personally I love my Ryobi over all the other names because they have a wider range of variety. They have a cordless trimmer which i not only use for laminates, but also as a regular router, and a cordless planer. No other companies offer these, and I dont work in a cabinet shop all day, I just periodicly need these a couple times a week, so it's alot easier just to toss a battery on it then have to run cords and set stuff up. The cordless chop saw I have is also very convienent for small trim jobs, I cant cut 8 inch crown mold with it, but i can run standard base molding and windows and doors.
Now, back to the batteries, my original complain was thier running weak on heavy load (for standard applications, theyre fine and usually a battery last me all day at work), and not charging when hot. They now have a lithium Ion batteries that work with thier existing tools, with twice the power, run time, and holding cycle. I've yet to grab them yet, sometime in the next couple weeks, but a few guys on some crews have them, and i've plugged them into mine, and theyre a noticable difference, being just as strong as my original Dewalts (mind you Dewalt also has new lithium batteries, but again, at 4 times the price)

Last and final, one more VERY important thing to add. I'm not sure the tie in, i've asked around and no one knows, this may have something to do with ITT as the post above expressed, but it's more then that.
Ryobi and Ridgid are tied together somehow, but not like black and decker and dewalt, theyres something more then that. Ryobi recently came out with thier new 12 inch sliding dual bevel compound miter saw, i've been waiting for this, you can even put dido blades on it and other unique uses. BUT... it's only available in Europe and they wont ship it here, i've tried, I even went through Austrailian Ebay to have one shipped, but the shipping far out weighed the idea. However, if you research it, you'll find thats it's only available in europe, but sold under the ridgid name here in the US, and pulling up pics of both models side by side, theyre the exact same saw, but ridgid is orange and grey, and ryobi is blue and yellow, the ryobi also has a few little extras that are handy that the ridgid doesnt and the ryobi has a slightly better degree cut, i think 60 degrees, over Ridgid's 57 degrees.
Uppon finding this out and doing a bit more research, I also found that the original Ryobi 3 speed hammer drill that they sold for a month before discontinuing, are the same guts as the Ridgid hammer drill. Thats all i've been able to find on the matter so far, I asked in the ryobi forums and no one knows anything about it. International forums also put Ryobi in the higher end with the bigger names like dewalt and makita, something about the amp of battery, i think here in teh US we got the 1.9 amp batteries, while europe got the 2.4 amp. I jsut started finding this out a couple weeks ago when seeing if there were any ideas of a 12 inch sliding for ryobi and found there already was, but not here.

food for thought.

So yes, for your DIY, and remodelers/renovators, Ryobi is a great product. It will also handle heavy commercial loads well, expecially with the new ion batteries, but some of the guys will look at you funny.
 
#20 ·
I just got their 18v Lithium-Ion compact drill/driver and it's remarkably light. Has very good balance and a silky-smooth trigger. Plenty of power. Low, small profile, too. The quick recharge feature is going to be a blessing on the job. It will complement my larger Panasonic cordless drill/driver very nicely.

I also have most of Makita's 9.6V stick-battery cordless tools and a dynamite long-discontinued small 4.8v cordless drill that's perfect for finishwork. A 5" random orbit sander, a VS belt sander, a corded impact driver and a corded screwgun round out my Makita toolbox.

Makita gives excellent value for the money spent.
 
#18 ·
Hello all!

Although I mainly use Makita, Bosch and Porter Cable power tools for my business, I can't say that a Ryobi or Skil or Firestorm power tool is a bad investment providing you lower your expectations of it when you buy it. Then, if it performs better than your expectations, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Otherwise, you'll pretty much have gotten exactly what you paid for. But, it's not a practical agrument in my opinion to compare any homeowner quality power tool with a professional quality one costing 2X or 3X more. We pretty much get what we pay for in this world and the daily rigors of professional use will eventually separate the men from the boys when it comes to power tools.

Some things any potential power tool buyer should consider besides the price difference when comparing models and brands:

Torque. RPM's or SPM's under actual load. Power-to-weight ratio. Battery life and recharging times. Chuck design, i.e single sleeve ratcheting vs. dual sleeve non-ratcheting. Gear box construction and quality, i.e. plastic or metal, sealed or not. Operating noise levels. Variable speed smoothness across the entire RPM range. Durability and drop resistance. Versatility. Toolless bit or blade changes. Balance. Vibration. Operator fatigue.
 
#19 · (Edited)
There was another site that broke this down even better, but this is what came up on a quick search saying the ryobi saw in europe is only available in the us under the Ridgid name. Cant find the UK posting board where i found out about the ryobi heavy duty hammer drill they quickly pulled that was actually the ridgid drill and made note of hte differences of batteries for ryobi in the us, and batteries in europe. Wish I still had my 3 speed ryobi hammer drill they released for that month before pulling it, that thing had hte fastest speed and torque of any gun i've ever had, but it ate through my batteries too fast, i'm gona try to get some euro batteries from ryobi shipped in. I wounder what theyre ions are rated at over there.
heres a quote from an online review editor over there who gets the "professional" line from ryobi in europe.

> Ryobi and Ridgid are both part of Emerson Tool, IIRC. Emerson used to make
> power tools for Sears. You will find that the Ryobi "Professional" tools
> sold in Europe are indistinguishable from Ridgid, the house brand of Home
> Depot. Have a look here: http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=114304
> That is my Ridgid, only in Ryobi blue instead of Borg orange.


http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/ryobiEMS1830SCL.htm

People dont accept Ryobi for professional use, they find it hard to rationalize that they just payed 600 bucks for something that a 300 dollar one would do just as well. Ryobi lacks in thier batteries, which is on purpose, so that it doesnt take away from the Ridgid line. Which is another reason why theyre new Lithium line has changed grip style and colors, to place it strictly in the DIY field, because more and more professionals were turning to Ryobi over the other major names, which was yet again, taking away from thier Ridgid line which is a strong direct competitor with Dewalt, Makita, Bosch, etc... So get the old Ryobi's while you still can before they change them all out to thier new style, and get the new Lithiums for them, but not the lithium combo packs cause the tools are designed on a lower field then the old. in other words, buy the blue, not the green. Comparing ryobi with other affordable brands like skill, firestorm, etc... Ryobi wins hands down without a doubt, now put a lithium battery on them and compare them to the regular (non lithium, cause again, the new ones are a stronger battery, but also 4 times the price) dewalts and makitas, and it's a close contest. and yep, look at the specs, then walk over to the next display and look at thier specs, usually the same. It's always boiled down to the poor batteries Ryobi purposefully uses for thier home owners line.
 
#24 ·
To tell you the truth, PK, I purchased the diminutive 10.8v Bosch Litheon pocket impact driver a few months back to complement my 10.8v Bosch Litheon pocket driver/drill which I've had for close to year. Two cordless tools, four lithium-ion batteries and two rapid chargers for around $330 total. For their size and weight, both are incredibly powerful and battery life is exceptional. But, I do have a corded fullsize Makita impact drver for the gut-buster deck screws and lags.
 
#27 ·
I have the paslode impulse cordless gas setups, the 16 ga angled nailer and framer. I've been very happy over the years. I've never used the Dewalt cordless, I originally got the Senco air free cordless trim nailers when they first came out years ago (probobly 6 yrs ago), wasnt impressed at all, and I guess Dewalt uses the same system, thats why i've never bought or used theres. I remember with my air free senco I had multiple problems daily. It used a type of band and pulley system, but if I hit a knot or another obsticle, it would lock up in the middle, then i'd have to stop, unscrew the whole gun apart, and reset the pulley system, needless to say it was returned a few days later, and the whole line was discontinued, I guess dewalt uses a similiar system, unsure if it's as problematic. But absolutely by hands down, Paslode impulses are preferred by most contractors, for x mas i'm planning on getting the 18 ga brad nailer gas cordless. Just my 2 cents, but again, I havnt used the dewalt, but I'm told it's a similiar design as the faulty senco.
 
#28 ·
I recently purchased the Kobalt CO2 portable air system, (OK I'm a tool whore) I really like the portability for trim work. Tank refills are $2.00 at paintball stores. Much easier to haul around than even my small compressor, and I still have the light weight of my brad and finish nailers.:wink:
 
#29 ·
I have just about every cordless tool they make. I haven't really had in problems with them. The batteries give out after a tear or so but that's pretty much true of any battery. They have came out with a new "improved battery that maybe better.
That being said they are not THE best but the price is right with a decent warranty. I also have Ryobi sliding compound miter saw that I have have for close to 20 years and it still works fine and cuts true. I am a finish carpenter so that is very important to me.
 
#31 ·
For many folks, one of the more important aspects of buying cordless power tools is the "system" that they are a part of. Batteries that fit multiple tools, chargers that will charge different voltages and older technology batteries as well as the newer ones, availability of accessories, etc.

IMO, DeWalt, Makita and Ryobi probably have the most comprehensive systems with Hitachi now perhaps a distant fourth. Black and Decker/Firestorm has way too many platforms and variations on the same theme with very little interchangeability. Same with Skil. Bosch's offerings are okay but not nearly as comprehensive as say DeWalt. They have very nicely addressed a niche market within the larger power tool market with their lithium-ion power drivers. Ridgid, a good brand name and company, still hasn't figured out where or what they want to be and HD is ruining the line's image with their hokey pricing schemes and positioning against DeWalt. Instead of showcasing it, they give it short shrift on the same display as the bigger name brands and keep beautiful well-stocked DeWalt, Porter Cable and Ryobi displays on their ends caps in the main aisle. Milwaukee has great tools (pre-China) but not as large or varied a system as the others. Porter Cable is now a mere shell of it former self. That's a tragedy altogether.

If you like Ryobi and are pleased with the tools' performance, reliability and durability, then by all means you should continue to build on their system. It's huge. And, they offer some very unique cordless tools that the others either never did or no longer do. 7.2V drill. Staple gun. Blower fan. Corner sander. Etc. But I think it's hard to get the average pro to look twice at investing in the Ryobi line when HD is footballing the line around and discounting the tools to where newbie DIY-ers and homeowners won't pass them up. That type of loss-leader merchandising creates the impression - right or wrong - that the purchase price is a direct correlation to the tools' performance, reliability and durability.

I'm now at the point in my career and business where I no longer buy the system concept, no matter whose brand it is. I personally feel it's too much of a compromise across the various tools I have to carry. Rather, I do my homework as best as I can and try to buy the very best power tool available at the time for the specific needs I have. My workbench has 8 or 9 chargers on it and that's fine with me. I keep three different duplicate chargers in my truck for my mainstays and workhorses. And, I carry spare batteries with me all the time.

My corded tools are a cacophony of brand names - a veritable who's who of manufacturers - again because I selected each based upon my needs, the tools' specific features and any available reviews.

All of this is just my opinion and everyone's mileage is going to vary.