[johnv713]

I have a fairly large section in the back yard covered with pavers. The large red pavers measured 1ftx1ft from HD. Spoke to a number of people if I could just pour concrete over it. The answer was, not surprisingly 50/50 even split among survey takers LOL. Some that said yes think its ok as long as the ground is stable.

So what's your take on this? The pavers are on solid ground and dont seem to shift at all.

Update on my other thread: Going to HomeDepot to place an order for about 240-250 bags of 60lbs concrete tonite along with 10 2x6 16ft lumber.

 

[95PGTTech]

I have a fairly large section in the back yard covered with pavers. The large red pavers measured 1ftx1ft from HD. Spoke to a number of people if I could just pour concrete over it. The answer was, not surprisingly 50/50 even split among survey takers LOL. Some that said yes think its ok as long as the ground is stable.

So what's your take on this? The pavers are on solid ground and dont seem to shift at all.

Update on my other thread: Going to HomeDepot to place an order for about 240-250 bags of 60lbs concrete tonite along with 10 2x6 16ft lumber.

For that quantity, why not just get a concrete truck?

 

[MTN REMODEL LLC]

How thick are you planning to pour...... will you rebar/remesh.

That is a lot to bag mix..... are you going to end up with cold joints.

Assuming undisturbed soil/ pavers... with at least 4+" pour.... and rebar, I'd do it....

But I would be darn worried about maintaining consistant mix and minimizing/designing any cold joints..... and of course you have a mixer.... even then, with plenty help.... that is a big bag mix.

At 260/60/lbs.... that is about a 5 yard truck.... and unless you have a placement restriction.... I'd sure consider a delivery.... probably cheaper when you net figure everything.. and a darnsite easier.

Good luck

 

[johnv713]

Well because with a truck Id have only less than 45 mins to work before the cement became stiff.

With the bags i can mix I can work on my own pace though it require more work. I'm planning to divide everything up in 4 sections and work on each when time permits.

 

[johnv713]

I plan to use remesh with expansion + control joints, and cold joints since everything is not going to be pour in one day.

Im aiming for 4 inches.


When I do get cold joints how will they turn out aesthetically? will they be noticeable?

 

[95PGTTech]

Paying the money for two guys who do this professionally to do the finish work will be the best money you've ever spent. Sit back with beverage of choice and watch the pros work and write the check. Save the DIY for other areas like framing.

On that note, I'd lose the pavers. One less variable.

 

[iThinman]

I want to build a second shed and was going to ask how many bags was realistic for one 140 lb. guy to pour in one day. I need a 12'x14' 4" slab and have a mixer. calculator said i need ~120 bags and I also planned to divide into 4 sections.

i did about 22 bags for 3 footings recently, but had to transfer into wheel barrel to shovel into hole. with a slab, I would imaging I could dump straight from the mixer or at least be able to dump the wheel barrel easier.

So is doing a slab in 4 (or more) sections acceptable? And does anybody have a guesstimate of how many bags I can mix, pour and finish in a day working alone?

 

[johnv713]

Well Im going to show you a different way to mix but Im sure to catch some flacks for this. Ive seen people just dump how ever many bags they want to mix in the ground and mix it from there. NO lies! So theoretically as many as you can dump on the ground

 

[MTN REMODEL LLC]

Well Im going to show you a different way to mix but Im sure to catch some flacks for this. Ive seen people just dump how ever many bags they want to mix in the ground and mix it from there. NO lies! So theoretically as many as you can dump on the ground

I've seen bad jobs also......:no:

 

[johnv713]

To be honest my neighbor did it this way with his patio. On a scale of 1-10 it was an 8.5 considering it was a DIY project Not too shabby if you asked me. I guess there are more ways than one to skin a cat.

 

[95PGTTech]

To be honest my neighbor did it this way with his patio. On a scale of 1-10 it was an 8.5 considering it was a DIY project Not too shabby if you asked me. I guess there are more ways than one to skin a cat.

this is quite a bit more complex. how are you going to ensure that the water you add is of correct volume if it's all running off of the top of the mix and being absorbed by the ground? how are you going to ensure adequate mixing?

 

[MTN REMODEL LLC]

this is quite a bit more complex. how are you going to ensure that the water you add is of correct volume if it's all running off of the top of the mix and being absorbed by the ground? how are you going to ensure adequate mixing?

And who is going to help you lift a cup of coffee the next morning........

 

[johnv713]

this is quite a bit more complex. how are you going to ensure that the water you add is of correct volume if it's all running off of the top of the mix and being absorbed by the ground? how are you going to ensure adequate mixing?

Not sure but he eyeballed and got the right consistency. He didn't pour it all at once just in 3 sections for a 30x16ft slab. Don't know how he did it but the end product look nice and going strong after 4 years. Next time Ill take some pics.

 

[iThinman]

eeek, don't do that. not even sure how you would do that with rebar and/or remesh down

 

[johnv713]

Maybe he did that next to his form anbd scoop up the cement? Or leave a small area free of remesh inside his layout and mix from there...dunno. But it has been done beforel.

 

[mako1]

Paying the money for two guys who do this professionally to do the finish work will be the best money you've ever spent. Sit back with beverage of choice and watch the pros work and write the check. Save the DIY for other areas like framing.

On that note, I'd lose the pavers. One less variable.

I agree.What you are trying to do is a recipe for disaster and going to be a waste of time and money in the long run.

 

[de-nagorg]

You left out the details that we would need to guess how many bags of concrete you can mix in one day.

Your Age, your general health, your amount of "git-er-dun". How many smoke breaks you "need", the season, (winter days are shorter than summer),

too many variables to even try to guess.

ED

P.S. Looks are misleading in concrete, your neighbor could have some areas that are only 1.5 inch thick, others with a lot of mixed in dirt, and many dry spots where he never got any water mixed in at all , with just a thin skin on top.

 

[GBrackins]

I guess there are more ways than one to skin a cat.

actually they are six ways, or 7 if you don't mind making the cat nervous .... :thumbsup:

 

[iThinman]

Your Age, your general health, your amount of "git-er-dun". How many smoke breaks you "need", the season, (winter days are shorter than summer),

too many variables to even try to guess.

ED

:thumbup:

46
general health, yes

just bought the place last year, but my git-er-dun got me from:

to...

I require i smoke break per hour until OCD kicks in, then none for 7 hours.

Season: n/a (California Bay Area) :whistling2:



:laughing:

 

[johnv713]

You left out the details that we would need to guess how many bags of concrete you can mix in one day.

Your Age, your general health, your amount of "git-er-dun". How many smoke breaks you "need", the season, (winter days are shorter than summer),

too many variables to even try to guess.

ED

P.S. Looks are misleading in concrete, your neighbor could have some areas that are only 1.5 inch thick, others with a lot of mixed in dirt, and many dry spots where he never got any water mixed in at all , with just a thin skin on top.

My age : I'm in the twilight area

My health: Lets just say the ladies dont call me stallion for no reason.

Smoke break are for wussies I keep on truckin til it's done :laughing:

Ok you guys convinced me, imma get it delivered. Though my neighbor's technique has been put thru the test. It can be done Id tell ya.