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Your Bosch 500 series dishwasher’s Normal cycle time of about 2.5 hours is typical for modern, energy-efficient models. lots of people have reported similar longer cycle times with dishwashers from the past few years. The Speed 60 cycle is a great feature if you need quicker cleaning.
 
Your Bosch 500 series dishwasher’s Normal cycle time of about 2.5 hours is typical for modern, energy-efficient models. Many users have reported similar longer cycle times with dishwashers from the past few years. The Speed 60 cycle is a great feature if you need quicker cleaning.
 
I bought a Bosch 500 series and should have it in 3 weeks. Owners manual says it takes approx 2.5 hrs for a Normal cycle. My 20 yr old Kenmore takes 1/2 hr. I know the new ones are super energy efficient and the time is not important to me but does that sound correct? Anyone else have the same with a less than 5-7 yr old machine?

It has a Speed 60 ( minutes ) cycle in case you need clean dishes in a hurry?

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There is a reason that Bosch dishwashers are the first top 8 best dishwashers in Consumer Reports ratings, and it is because they are the best dishwashers. I have always had KitchenAid, and they all came at a premium price. Repeated failures on my third machine 3 years ago convinced me to look at other brands so I checked Consumer Reports and decided on the Bosch, (which also had the top ratings back then) and it was the best decision we ever made, and I paid far less for it than I would have for a KitchenAid. It is the series 100 and my wife always uses the 60-minute cycle and absolutely loves the machine. It is so quiet you almost can't hear it running. Knowingly or not, you made a very wise purchase by getting the Bosch
 
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There is a reason that Bosch dishwashers are the first top 8 best dishwashers in Consumer Reports ratings, and it is because they are the best dishwashers. I have always had KitchenAid, and they all came at a premium price. Repeated failures on my third machine 3 years ago convinced me to look at other brands so I checked Consumer Reports and decided on the Bosch, (which also had the top ratings back then) and it was the best decision we ever made, and I paid far less for it than I would have for a KitchenAid. It is the series 100 and my wife always uses the 60-minute cycle and absolutely loves the machine. It is so quiet you almost can't hear it running. Knowingly or not, you made a very wise purchase by getting the Bosch
I am an Engineer and do LOTS of research on purchases plus I understand a LOT about pumps and motors and solenoid valves. I plan to use the 60 minute cycle to save wear and tear on the motor and pump and my dishes are not that messy and require a long cycle. If it is something special I can change the cycle.

I suspect Bosch like Braun shavers and Sony TVs have decided to make a Mercedes quality product for people who are willing to pay for that quality. They are not interested in competing with all the Korean and other cheaper dog eat dog race to the bottom priced brands.

I have been buying Braun shavers for 40 years and the quality is the same and they have a loyal " captive " audience. Same with Sony so I suspect they want to keep that audience. Same with Toyota and Honda. Makes sense.
 
My Whirlpool WDF330PAHW2 was the least expensive machine available at Lowes 6 years ago. Installed it myself and Lowes took the 18-year old Whirlpool away for $400. It takes 2 hours to complete the "Normal" cycle @55 db with heated water and no-heat dry. I'm a bachelor, so I can let them air-dry, and that means I can put plastics like Tupperware on the lower rack without melting them. It also has a 1-hour cycle but I don't use that much. It's not completely silent, but for the price I can live with the low noise level.
 
So, after contemplating this thread, I ran the 60-minute "quick" cycle this morning. I think this would be the second time in 8 years that I've tried that cycle.

It really did finish in about 60 minutes. I wasn't there to witness the last few minutes, but it was close. The "normal" cycle generally finishes 10-20 minutes earlier than the initial estimate.

The dishes came out clean. One thing I did notice, however, was that they were a LOT hotter than they usually are at the end of the "normal" cycle. Almost too hot to touch. I'm not really sure why. Maybe it actually gets them hotter to clean them quicker (at the expense of efficiency) or maybe it just finishes sooner so they don't have as long to cool down. I might get an energy monitoring smart plug to get an idea where in each cycle it runs the heater.

I guess none of this really matters much. Just... Who else am I gonna share this knowledge with?

I miss the old days when appliances actually had a ladder diagram or some such on them, explaining details about each cycle. Now we're left to wonder what the computer is really doing.
 
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So, after contemplating this thread, I ran the 60-minute "quick" cycle this morning. I think this would be the second time in 8 years that I've tried that cycle.

It really did finish in about 60 minutes. I wasn't there to witness the last few minutes, but it was close. The "normal" cycle generally finishes 10-20 minutes earlier than the initial estimate.

The dishes came out clean. One thing I did notice, however, was that they were a LOT hotter than they usually are at the end of the "normal" cycle. Almost too hot to touch. I'm not really sure why. Maybe it actually gets them hotter to clean them quicker (at the expense of efficiency) or maybe it just finishes sooner so they don't have as long to cool down. I might get an energy monitoring smart plug to get an idea where in each cycle it runs the heater.

I guess none of this really matters much. Just... Who else am I gonna share this knowledge with?

I miss the old days when appliances actually had a ladder diagram or some such on them, explaining details about each cycle. Now we're left to wonder what the computer is really doing.
Yeah may be just trivia. I spend $2 a day on Boost drinks and am not trying to pinch pennies just get a good machine that works and lasts a long time.
 
Hope nothing goes wrong
I would imagine the worst thing that could happen is water leaking, but I utilize a Flood Safe hose to prevent that. I had a valve pop on an older machine and we came home to a quart of water on the floor. The flood safe hose stopped a catastrophe.
 
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So, after contemplating this thread, I ran the 60-minute "quick" cycle this morning. I think this would be the second time in 8 years that I've tried that cycle.

It really did finish in about 60 minutes. I wasn't there to witness the last few minutes, but it was close. The "normal" cycle generally finishes 10-20 minutes earlier than the initial estimate.

The dishes came out clean. One thing I did notice, however, was that they were a LOT hotter than they usually are at the end of the "normal" cycle. Almost too hot to touch. I'm not really sure why. Maybe it actually gets them hotter to clean them quicker (at the expense of efficiency) or maybe it just finishes sooner so they don't have as long to cool down. I might get an energy monitoring smart plug to get an idea where in each cycle it runs the heater.

I guess none of this really matters much. Just... Who else am I gonna share this knowledge with?

I miss the old days when appliances actually had a ladder diagram or some such on them, explaining details about each cycle. Now we're left to wonder what the computer is really doing.
Good thing I don't need a new washing machine. The choices and options are endless. My old Kenmore should chug along for at least 25 years and has all old school mechanical controls.
 
The long cycle is mainly to soak dishes so they come out cleaner. Even the old ones re cycle a good bit of water -- the new ones probably more. Allows more drying time also, not sure how long the drying element is actually running during the dry time, I'm sure it's not the entire time. One way to increase the efficiency of your dish washer is to run the hot water at the kitchen sink until it's actually coming out hot. The dishwasher senses water temp and will only use the element to heat water as necessary. If you have a tankless water heater or the water heater is a good distance from the kitchen this helps a lot.
 
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