We need to repaint several rooms in our house. We'll be covering over a burgundy color with light brown/dark beige in a flat finish. We've always used Benjamin Moore, however our daughters gave us a Home Depot gift card for paint so we're now looking at either Glidden or Behr. The idea of not using BM makes me cringe. The idea of hurting the kids' feelings makes me cringe more, so I'm hoping some opinions might help. The Glidden is less expensive than the Behr, which might indicate that it's not as good, but I hate to trust that. Any opinions? Thanks, Mom of two well meaning kids.
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I would like to agree with you, but in my experience painting bathrooms, kitchens, hallways, livingrooms mine included with 12 1/2 ft walls, and 1 great room with drywalled vaulted ceilings I can say I haven't had any prior issues with streaking. That's with all the other paints I have used all the way from flat to semi-gloss. That includes spraying on rolling.
Now I did have that problem when my wife's friend felt that she needed to help us paint from the pantry through the downstairs hallway which I had to fix. When I used Behr for the first time in our upstairs hallway it turned out streaky. I tried to fix it with a nice and even 2nd coat, but without any luck. It left me scratching my head... so idk.
I have used Behr for the last 7 years (before that I used Sears), and did not experience any of the problems reported: streaking/does not cover well...
I think the problems are mostly caused by:
1- Inadequate before painting prep
2- Many expect to skimp on the amount of paint to use, and try to stretch it as far as they can, IE: putting too much pressure to make it cover a larger area.
3-use cheap brush/ roller
4-painters (the "pros") don't want to spend enough to do the job right... so they go with the paint that covers more area with one coat... or blame it on the brand!
I don't skimp but I get a decent looking paint job.
I never got more than 200 sq feet coverage per Gallon because I liberally apply the paint: NOT SQUEEZE IT! and I always use a Primer (Behr).
( the Container Sticker says :250-400sq feet Coverage... but I don't care if I only get less than 200 SQ-F!)
I think the problems are mostly caused by:
1- Inadequate before painting prep
2- Many expect to skimp on the amount of paint to use, and try to stretch it as far as they can, IE: putting too much pressure to make it cover a larger area.
3-use cheap brush/ roller
4-painters (the "pros") don't want to spend enough to do the job right... so they go with the paint that covers more area with one coat... or blame it on the brand!
I don't skimp but I get a decent looking paint job.
I never got more than 200 sq feet coverage per Gallon because I liberally apply the paint: NOT SQUEEZE IT! and I always use a Primer (Behr).
( the Container Sticker says :250-400sq feet Coverage... but I don't care if I only get less than 200 SQ-F!)
I'd like to point out a couple errors in your judgement. Your points are fine as long as you are unaware of what you are judging. No offense. Behr will work just fine if you are looking for a paint that can cover fairly well with most light to mid grade colors. I have done side by side demonstrations with Behr primer and behr paint beside a quality paint from a Paint Store. The overall surface smoothness, application ease, touchup, washability, burnish resistance would amaze you. Your point number 4 is not very good. The pros got to stand by their results, look back at my side by side analysis. Most of the painters customers may already be unaware but they still need to have a quality job. And why wouldnt you want to pay a little more for better paint that goes further, instead of having to spend 28 bucks for top end behr, a painter can buy a higher quality for much less, get better coverage and have better overall results. Sorry, just started on my soapbox too much. One last thing to leave with you, when the big box places need to be painted, whose paint do they use, ask them, you'll be surprised they dont use their own paint, it comes from a paint store.
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LOL, you can't apply Behr liberally, it will just sag off the wall.
That's called going with the best.
Some people will sell their soul for any little discount they get from paint stores, who in return expect them to knock down the competition!
To their chagrin that strategy is not working very well!
All over in the US, Home Depot Painting dept. have more homeowners customers shopping/buying their paint than all the Paint Stores combined with Lowes Valspar customers included!
The "pros" will probably say : they don't know any better!
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You can't pay me to use Behr paint :no:
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go spam some other message board. Sheesh.
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All over in the US, Home Depot Painting dept. have more customers shopping/buying the paint than all the Paint Stores combined with Lowes Valspar customers included!:huh:
The "pros" will probably say : they don't know any better!
Get real and go away.:whistling2:
If you are going to throw out statements like that, let's see the facts.:yes:
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The paint product you choose does make a difference.
The paint product you choose does make a difference. If you buy cheap expect poor results. I have been in the painting industry 25 years so perhaps I qualify as an expert. I don't like to bash other people or products, with that said, we as a company never use Behr or Glidden, even at the customer's request . it just would make our jobs harder and always guarantee no return business, That for us is a lose lose situation.
The paint product you choose does make a difference. If you buy cheap expect poor results. I have been in the painting industry 25 years so perhaps I qualify as an expert. I don't like to bash other people or products, with that said, we as a company never use Behr or Glidden, even at the customer's request . it just would make our jobs harder and always guarantee no return business, That for us is a lose lose situation.
More chevrolets' are sold than lexus'. Does this mean that chevy is better, PLEASE....
The other places are warehouses that distribute products made by the paint stores. Again, go ahead and ask who's paint is on the outside of each of their buidlings. It ain't behr.
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You have a point!
Paintpimp you are correct, the big box stores that sell these products know that their products are not good of for them to use on their bldgs and probably in their own homes.... Hmm, I wonder does the owner of McDonald's takes his family to eat at McDonald's, i don't know.
Paintpimp you are correct, the big box stores that sell these products know that their products are not good of for them to use on their bldgs and probably in their own homes.... Hmm, I wonder does the owner of McDonald's takes his family to eat at McDonald's, i don't know.
Actually, most Home Depot's are painted and re-painted using Glidden Speed-Cote Exterior which is sold within the store. I know this because I have been on many Home Depot new construction and re-paint job-sites. Not saying it is the best but it is used quite frequently.
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If you are stuck at Home Depot, Glidden "Smart" paint (or whatever the top line is called for you, I'm in Toronto, ON) is actually a pretty nice paint. I use Benj Moore and SW on a regular basis as my main suppliers, but you have to admit HD does offer a good value with that stuff.
Alot of Behr hating here. But ill just say the Behr top-line Maximum Exterior is pretty solid in my experience. Then again, it is sort of their flagship, so it better be decent.
Alot of Behr hating here. But ill just say the Behr top-line Maximum Exterior is pretty solid in my experience. Then again, it is sort of their flagship, so it better be decent.
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I couldn't agree more:laughing:
That's not true. Both are medium-grade paints. Nothing more, and nothing less. There are a lot of brands of middle-of-the-road paints on the market. Everything from Valspar to Dutch Boy. They're not the best paints on the market, but they work just fine.
and how many homes have you painted in one year? I know paint and behr and gliden are at the bottom of the food chain kinda like saying garden burgers are just as good as Grade A Black Angus burgers.
I have been renovating houses for almost 25 years. What I know to be true is exactly what I said. There are a whole host of middle-of-the-road paints on the market. They're not spectacular, and they're not horrible.
Are some of the premium brand paints better than the middle-of-the-road paints? For the exorbitant prices they charge, they danged well better be!
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