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I have a small concrete driveway that opens up to a backyard shed past a fence gate. I park my trucks, trailer and store stuff there. There is a little bit of existing gravel but I'd like to cover the entire area in front and around my shed for parking. All the wood chips are from stump grinding and ill probably rake those up.

The gravel company wants me to use crush and run on the whole are area, but I'm not keen on having that dusty type material there. I drive back there to park and unload but it's certainly not a road or driveway by any means.

Do you think I need to use crush and run and then top with another gravel to keep the dust down or can I get away with only using a few inches of medium to small gravel (#67) to keep from getting stuck in the dirt?
 

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Use the crusher run. The dust (fines) settle. When the stones get compacted down they lock together and the fines hold it all together all most like cement.

There won't be any dust flying around after a compaction and a good rain.

I wouldn't put any other kind of stone on top
 

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Use the crusher run. The dust (fines) settle. When the stones get compacted down they lock together and the fines hold it all together all most like cement.

There won't be any dust flying around after a compaction and a good rain.

I wouldn't put any other kind of stone on top
^This. It will create a decent base, and should only be dusty for a short time.
 

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Use the crusher run. The dust (fines) settle. When the stones get compacted down they lock together and the fines hold it all together all most like cement.

There won't be any dust flying around after a compaction and a good rain.

I wouldn't put any other kind of stone on top
Ayuh,.... Agreed,....

The existin' driveway is crusher run,...
 

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I've found out the hard way for a longer lasting, pot hole free driveway it's best to remove the top soil and any vegitation, lay Geotex cloth, then the crush and run.
http://www.usfabricsinc.com/products/drivewayfabric

It keep the material from sinking into the ground and having to go back every year to add more.
 

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Thanks for the information. Is the crusher run something I can shovel and rake myself? Does it need to be power compacted or rolled or can I just leave as be and let it settle over time?

This is not a high use area, I just park there really and the dirt/leaves/wood chips have basically been fine, so just looking to clean it up a little and keep off the mud
 

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When I had mine done, the haulage company just dumped it on the driveway. I soon realized (after 2 shovel fulls) that I needed to hire buddy down the rd with the tractor to push it into place.

As far as compaction, I just ran my vehicle up and down for a few minutes and it worked great. You realize of course this is the totally unpro way to do it, I'm just saying it worked for me. Just make sure you get it spread before it rains.
 

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When I had mine done, the haulage company just dumped it on the driveway. I soon realized (after 2 shovel fulls) that I needed to hire buddy down the rd with the tractor to push it into place.

As far as compaction, I just ran my vehicle up and down for a few minutes and it worked great. You realize of course this is the totally unpro way to do it, I'm just saying it worked for me. Just make sure you get it spread before it rains.
This worries me some, I don't really have a way to spread it other than shovel and barrow, was it just really hard to dig into? They said they can spread it from the truck but I think my gate is too small so I was planning to leave it at the end of the driveway and spread it by hand over time.
 

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The company I used came with a pick up that had a hydraulic tilt. The driver didn't dump in one spot but still...

You should know that I am a small/average woman so it may be considerably easier for you and a buddy or two
 

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This worries me some, I don't really have a way to spread it other than shovel and barrow, was it just really hard to dig into? They said they can spread it from the truck but I think my gate is too small so I was planning to leave it at the end of the driveway and spread it by hand over time.
Ayuh,.... Crusher run is a graded stone,...

4" minus don't shovel or rake... atleast not very easily...
so the smaller the grade of stone, the easier it is to place by hand,...

We use alota either 1, 1/2" minus crusher run, 'n better yet, 3/4" minus crusher run...

The 3/4" minus is pretty easy shovelin', when 1st dumped, as it's still fairly loose...
Leave the pile for a year, 'n Ya, it gets harder to shovel...

It'll tighten up, either with settlement, or compaction...
 

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This is what the website says, it looks like only one size offered in that type of material:

"ABC - Crush & Run: Gray in color, crushed granite or run, mixed with 3/4 inch average size crushed stone gravel. Used as first layer of driveway 3 to 4 inch recommended the first time. Then later use a washed stone on top for drainage. Image $18.00"

http://www.areamulchandsoils.com/gravel_nc.html
 

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This is what the website says, it looks like only one size offered in that type of material:

"ABC - Crush & Run: Gray in color, crushed granite or run, mixed with 3/4 inch average size crushed stone gravel. Used as first layer of driveway 3 to 4 inch recommended the first time. Then later use a washed stone on top for drainage. Image $18.00"

http://www.areamulchandsoils.com/gravel_nc.html
Ayuh,... Their pictures looks 'bout right, but their advice sucks...

Donno why anybody would put washed stone over a driveway,...

Without the fines in it, it's mealy, 'n won't ever compact, nor properly settle...
 

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I used crusher run on our main driveway, 30years ago, and again when I built my shop and made a driveway to that, 20-25 years ago, but when I have dressed it, 3 or 4 times over the years, I have used washed. Why? Because we live about 2 miles off of the pavement, and track in more than enough of the small stuff for it to pack good. The last time that I dressed it, I got something in the neighborhood of 40 yards, and we used the tailgate as much as possible, but it was obviously a large truck, harder to feather the load, so I still had a lot to move. No way that I would have done it without the tractor. But, for a smaller area, depending on what they have available, and how the hauling cost would be affected, maybe you could have it brought in with a 5-10 yard truck, and with a little care, might be able to tailgate it out enough to minimize the manual part.
 

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just did my driveway with crush and run and it packs well and I am very satisfied with it.
 
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