[farmerjohn1324]

Does it flow up from ground into black pipe? And then over to the storage tank? I don't see how that would make sense if it has to go the opposite direction from storage tank out of the spigots/valves. Are there pipes that I cannot see?

 

[SeniorSitizen]

Being water is going somewhere there is a pipe i can't see also.

 

[Missouri Bound]

It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the black pipe is connected to the well.
Are there wires running along that pipe or going into that pipe? Those power the well pump at the bottom of the black pipe.
And it's not a storage tank....it's an air expansion tank. Every well has one.
And all of my response is based on just what I can see.
And that valve with the black handle...near the tools...is where the water will be plumbed to. Perhaps you have two of them.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the black pipe is connected to the well.
Are there wires running along that pipe or going into that pipe? Those power the well pump at the bottom of the black pipe.
And it's not a storage tank....it's an air expansion tank. Every well has one.
And all of my response is based on just what I can see.

If it's not a storage tank for water than why does it say how many gallons it is?

 

[joed]

Here is a right side up picture.

Some water from the well will flow into the pressure tank. When water is required it will flow from either one of the two shut off valves with the black handles below the white elbow.
It will also flow from the faucet hiding behind the red knob which I don't know what it does.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Here is a right side up picture.

Some water from the well will flow into the pressure tank. When water is required it will flow from either one of the two shut off valves with the black handles below the white elbow.


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If water flows from well to tank (green line), then sometimes from tank to valves (red line), then isn't it using the same pipes for 2 different directions? How can that be?

 

[SeniorSitizen]

Where does the pipe from this valve go? Maybe into the dirt to supply water wherever it goes?

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Where does the pipe from this valve go? Maybe into the dirt to supply water wherever it goes?

The side you can't see is open. The other side comes from the well or tank.

 

[Chris616]

For the red lines, from underground to the four way tee, then out the two black handled valves, water only flows in one direction. For the lower connection on the four way tee, into the pressure tank, water will flow into the tank when the pump in the well is on, and out of the tank when the pump is off. See the video below for more explanation.

Chris

 

[farmerjohn1324]

For the red lines, from underground to the four way tee, then out the two black handled valves, water only flows in one direction. For the lower connection on the four way tee, into the pressure tank, water will flow into the tank when the pump in the well is on, and out of the tank when the pump is off. See the video below for more explanation.

Chris

Ok. So if I wanted to hook up a "whole house water filtration system", I would have said that I should connect it at this elbow marked in blue...

Except that doesn't account for the hose bibb that is left of the Pvc. (With the green handle).

So I would have to attach it at the metal parts, or just have 1 dirty hose bibb.

The water from the well is yellow. Would a filtration system have to be after the CSV valve?

 

[Old Thomas]

That type of pressure tank only has one pipe. If the pump supplies more water than the system demands, the tank takes water. If the pump is not running, the tank gives water. The empty tank pressure should match the “turn on” pressure of the pump so when the tank is empty the pump turns on. Those tanks can be teed in at any point in the system. For example, if you want a flush valve toilet in your bathroom, you can put one of those tanks nearby to give the flush valve a big shot of water.

 

[lenaitch]

Submersible pumps produce flow. Their only pressure is that which is produced to bring that flow to the surface. The pressure tank creates and stores pressure necessary for the plumbing system to be useful.

 

[Chris616]

Ok. So if I wanted to hook up a "whole house water filtration system", I would have said that I should connect it at this elbow marked in blue...

Except that doesn't account for the hose bibb that is left of the Pvc. (With the green handle).

So I would have to attach it at the metal parts, or just have 1 dirty hose bibb.

The water from the well is yellow. Would a filtration system have to be after the CSV valve?

I’ll guess that the person who set this up intended for:
- One of the black handled valves to feed the house, after first going through whatever kind of water treatment system is required.
- One of the black handled valves to send untreated water to outdoor faucets.
- The green handled valve to be used for maintenance purposes, like if you’re working on the system and want to bleed pressure to trigger the pump to come on.

Chris

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Ok. So if I wanted to hook up a "whole house water filtration system", I would have said that I should connect it at this elbow marked in blue...

Except that doesn't account for the hose bibb that is left of the Pvc. (With the green handle).

So I would have to attach it at the metal parts, or just have 1 dirty hose bibb.

The water from the well is yellow. Would a filtration system have to be after the CSV valve?

I’ll guess that the person who set this up intended for:
- One of the black handled valves to feed the house, after first going through whatever kind of water treatment system is required.
- One of the black handled valves to send untreated water to outdoor faucets.
- The green handled valve to be used for maintenance purposes, like if you’re working on the system and want to bleed pressure to trigger the pump to come on.

Chris

By outdoor faucets, do you mean the hose bibbs on the side of the house?

 

[Chris616]

By outdoor faucets, do you mean the hose bibbs on the side of the house?

Yes, although I'll admit to wondering why there is no house in these pictures :smile:

 

[farmerjohn1324]

By outdoor faucets, do you mean the hose bibbs on the side of the house?

Yes, although I'll admit to wondering why there is no house in these pictures

The hose bibbs would have to be on the same line as the rest of the house water.

Now the question is... Do I want the second white valve to be treated. Why or why not? Not even sure it will be used for anything.

 

[joed]

The water from the well is yellow. Would a filtration system have to be after the CSV valve?

Is this a new well? It looks like it.
If so just flowing the water may clear it up. If it doesn't clear up then filtration will be needed. The type of filtration depends on the problems. You need to test the water to see why it is yellow. chemical content, etc.

 

[hkstroud]

The hose bib (the one with the green handle) is there for the purpose of taking water samples.


One of the two ball valves is there for connection of the piping to the residence. The other is there for the purpose of flushing the pressure tank should that become necessary or desired.

If the two ball valves are the same size either can be used for either purpose. If one is larger than the other the smaller would be used for piping to the residence. The larger would be used to flush the tank.


Any filtration should be done at the residence. Filtration requires maintenance and is an expense. Connection of any plumbing devices (such as exterior hose bibs) that do not require filtration or filtration is not desired would be made before the filtration. For instance you may or may not want to filter toilets.

 

[TheEplumber]

The hose bibbs would have to be on the same line as the rest of the house water.

Now the question is... Do I want the second white valve to be treated. Why or why not? Not even sure it will be used for anything.

Up here we plumb a soft cold water line and a hard cold water line inside the home- the hose bibs are on the hard water line. So, your line from the well could run into the home to the treatment equipment and out to the fixtures. The bibs would bypass the treatment on their dedicated line. Since you didn't plumb the house that way, your bibs will now be treated or conditioned....

The second line I'd leave as it is. Or add another tee with a bib for testing and and the branch outlet for remote yard hydrants.......

 

[Shiftyshift]

I have a complex system with water treatment. At the well, there is a pump dropped into the well (20 feet) and one pressure tank. It is pumped across a field to my 5000 gallon storage tank. Out of the storage tank it first goes through two pressure tanks and then to either to a "treated" line or untreated line. I have untreated water all around the property so treated water is not used for watering, etc. The treated side goes through 3 systems - nitrate removal, calcite (raise pH), and a water softener. This goes to the house and to other hose bibs. The two pressure tanks ensure the pump is not turning off and on too much. The 100 gallons in the pressure tanks is used before the pump turns back on.



As far as testing, you must have this done before installing any kind of filtering or treatment system. This will cost hundreds but is necessary. You need to know what impurities are there, hardness, etc. There's a huge list. I have 18 years installing and maintaining this system. Also, not all pump companies are equal. Be very careful who you hire. Read a lot online.