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Remodeling my home (built in 1971) and had to move an electrical outlet. Now I need to match the recently mudded/sanded area with the rest of the wall.

Question: is this texture merely roller stipple built up over the years or is this actually lightly sprayed orange peel?

I know I just need to match it so it doesn't really matter what it's called, but I think if I know what the texture is it will give me a clue about what techniques I need to use to match it. I've tried rolling the patched area twice with 'Sherwin-Williams Wall & Wood' primer using a 1/2" nap sheepskin roller loaded pretty heavily with paint and the texture it leaves is still quite different; what I get is more of a sharp or pointy texture that looks more "crackly" whereas what I'm trying to match is more smooth. Did I still not have the roller loaded enough?

1st pix - Not the exact area being matched to but does show texture I'm trying to match up close. Ruler shows the scale of the texture. Reflective area is semi-gloss overspray of the wood door jamb.

2nd pix - Texture to match to.

3rd pix - Texture looks more subtle when viewed further out and looking at it more perpendicular to wall. Piece of blue tape is about 1" x 1".

4th pix - Pix I found on the internet. My texture looks about the like this.

So.....roller stipple or orange peel?
 

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My apartment was built around that same time frame, used to be smooth walled...About 500 paint jobs ago...without a better picture it's very difficult to say for sure. From the first pic. It could easily go either way...
 

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Ya gotta take a better picture.
Blackjack -

I'd love to but I don't know if that's possible. I think that first pix is about as good as I can get....taken at an angle to the wall it shows the texture and the ruler shows the scale of the texture. Did you open it up/expand the pix? The last one, with the beige wall, shows up fairly well, I thought.

I will say this...if it's orange peel, it definitely is not 'hotel ugly', you know that super heavy orange peel you often see in a cheap motel. What I have is not that at all. The 2nd and 3rd pix show how subtle the texture is whereas the 1st pix makes the texture look very pronounced due to the shadowing and sheen of the semi-gloss overspray.

Anyway....lot of words but I'm still at a loss. I now have 3 heavy coats of primer (1 x with a burned out 3/8" nap (over a 3/4" nap that made the texture too 'sharp'), 2 x heavy coats with a 1/2" sheepskin roller. Looking better than no texture but still doesn't match. I plan to try some thinned down mud AND trying a Homax orange peel tomorrow on a scrap piece of drywall and then lightly sand both and see what looks the best.
 

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well you've got the right idea about running a sample piece and bump sanding it. i'm leaning toward old smooth wall painted many, many times.

I suppose the best way to check it out would be to look around the trim areas. the 1-2 inches around the case, base, doors jambs,and ceiling. the only way those areas can be painted is with a brush. there should be very little or no texture (compared to other places)other than brush strokes.

in either case, a light- med orangepeel should get you close as you are trying to match age.. i'd dump the roll mud idea and just go for the light texture. just make sure you move the can around in a circle over your patch a few times to cover some of the surrounding area for a better match and then give it a light sand. you'll still need to load the new area several times with paint to try to match the depth of the old which looks pretty loaded...
 

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Looks like orange peel to me, but doesn't really matter. Not knowing what size roller nap was used would be hard to hit the right one if it is stipple. Get a can of Homax orange peel repair with an adjustable nozzle from the box store. Practice till you get it close to what you want. The adjustable nozzle lets you fail it in from heavy orange peel to very light.
 

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.....I suppose the best way to check it out would be to look around the trim areas. the 1-2 inches around the case, base, doors jambs,and ceiling. the only way those areas can be painted is with a brush. there should be very little or no texture (compared to other places)other than brush strokes......
blackjack -

So I checked the 1-2" near the baseboards, etc and found that the texture did NOT go all the way to the wood trim; the 1-2" near the wood trim was definitely brushed. So I'm guessing that means you would say the texture was simply roller stipple built up over time?

If I had to take a guess now, that's what I'd say, because of the baseboard thing you talked about and because there's no other room in the home that has that heavy of a texture.

What I ended up doing: tried to lightly sponge on sheetrock mud, let it dry, and lightly sanded it. The end result was better than nothing but the texture it left after sanding looked (literally) very close to a cantaloupe rind. Next I tried using the Homax Orange Peel stuff mentioned above. Set in on highest pressure setting and the smallest/tightest pattern possible. Sprayed it on, lightly sanded it, primed it and then, to "round" the texture a little more I sanded it AGAIN after priming.

Not perfect (nuts!) but it's as good as I can get it.

BTW, if anyone out there in DIY-land knows how to match texture, please let me know. Even with my being convinced this was just built up roller texture, I have no idea how to match it....heavy, HEAVY amounts of paint and a decently long roller nap still wasn't matching it.

Thanks to everyone!
 
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