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isn't this a violation?
i thought ANY outlets near water source had to be gfic?

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Are you sure that they are not GFCI'd?
Could be a GFCI breaker or a GFCI recept that they are loaded off of.
Did you check in cabinet under sink?
 

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It has nothing to do with water. Counter top receptacles require gfci protection.
Are they protected by a breaker?
 

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isn't this a violation?
i thought ANY outlets near water source had to be gfic?

tnkx

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Yes, I thought so, within a certain distance, for reasons of a water pipe ground and water being present.
The water removes the current-limiting benefit of the resistance of dry skin, as do voltages >600v.
 

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Yes, I thought so, within a certain distance, for reasons of a water pipe ground and water being present.
The water removes the current-limiting benefit of the resistance of dry skin, as do voltages >600v.
No, there is no "within XXX distance to a water source". It may seem that way but that is not how the code is written.

The code also says "GFI PROTECTED". Not "must be GFI". So those receptacles most likely are either off a GFI breaker or loaded out from a nearby GFI device, as the others have said.
 

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the one with the switches is gfci, so maybe they're strung from it? didn't think of that.
this is new const. btw. (not my place)

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the one with the switches is gfci, so maybe they're strung from it? didn't think of that.
this is new const. btw. (not my place)
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As it is new contruction, and if done properly and inspected- these outlets are highly likely to be GFCI protected- (probably didn't bother with the stickers!) I wired my kitchen like this- 2-20a circuits along the counter being fed by an initial GFCI for each- all the rest are regular outlets but protected by the first in the circuit.
 

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As it is new contruction, and if done properly and inspected- these outlets are highly likely to be GFCI protected- (probably didn't bother with the stickers!) I wired my kitchen like this- 2-20a circuits along the counter being fed by an initial GFCI for each- all the rest are regular outlets but protected by the first in the circuit.
The little stickers don't stay on long, at least not in a kitchen or bathroom, where, oh, they are most likely to be used, if used at all. :)
 

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not my home, so i don't really care. i was just curious.
personally, i think i'd use individual gfci's for each.

the outdoor balusters were also more than 4" spaces between.
THAT is wrong, no?

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personally, i think i'd use individual gfci's for each.
I agree, WHY?
Completely unnecessary and wasteful.

When I see this to me it screams DIY'er who didn't know what they were doing. :whistling2:
 

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the outdoor balusters were also more than 4" spaces between.
THAT is wrong, no?

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Four inch max spacing, at least here in Louisville.
 

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I agree, WHY?
Completely unnecessary and wasteful.

When I see this to me it screams DIY'er who didn't know what they were doing. :whistling2:
unnecessary and wasteful? not to me.
if and when something trips, i want to be able to follow the cord back to the culprit. i got a box full of brand new gfci's for less than regular outlets at auction so i'll be using them any/everywhere!

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if and when something trips, i want to be able to follow the cord back to the culprit. DM
I have two in my garage, for the same reason. I wanted to make sure the whole circuit wouldn't go down if one tripped. In the basement, though, I have one GFCI protecting all the outlets in the basement office. I used the little stickers on them. :)
 
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