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isn't this a violation?
i thought ANY outlets near water source had to be gfic?
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i thought ANY outlets near water source had to be gfic?
tnkx
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Violation?
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Yes, I thought so, within a certain distance, for reasons of a water pipe ground and water being present.
The water removes the current-limiting benefit of the resistance of dry skin, as do voltages >600v.
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No, there is no "within XXX distance to a water source". It may seem that way but that is not how the code is written.
The code also says "GFI PROTECTED". Not "must be GFI". So those receptacles most likely are either off a GFI breaker or loaded out from a nearby GFI device, as the others have said.
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the one with the switches is gfci, so maybe they're strung from it? didn't think of that.
this is new const. btw. (not my place)
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this is new const. btw. (not my place)
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As it is new contruction, and if done properly and inspected- these outlets are highly likely to be GFCI protected- (probably didn't bother with the stickers!) I wired my kitchen like this- 2-20a circuits along the counter being fed by an initial GFCI for each- all the rest are regular outlets but protected by the first in the circuit.
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You can check for GFCI protection.
With a
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/032664/032664481000md.jpg
and a small incand bulb, 10w or so, run one wire into the short outlet slot and the other into the ground slot.
The light will go out and you'll hear a click somewhere in the house.
With a
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/032664/032664481000md.jpg
and a small incand bulb, 10w or so, run one wire into the short outlet slot and the other into the ground slot.
The light will go out and you'll hear a click somewhere in the house.
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The little stickers don't stay on long, at least not in a kitchen or bathroom, where, oh, they are most likely to be used, if used at all.
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not my home, so i don't really care. i was just curious.
personally, i think i'd use individual gfci's for each.
the outdoor balusters were also more than 4" spaces between.
THAT is wrong, no?
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personally, i think i'd use individual gfci's for each.
the outdoor balusters were also more than 4" spaces between.
THAT is wrong, no?
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I've never seen the stickers anywhere
Except for the ones in my own house that I put up
Except for the ones in my own house that I put up
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Why? That is an un-necessary expense.
That is more of a local building code. I have heard 4" or 6" depending on where I was.
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I agree, WHY?
Completely unnecessary and wasteful.
When I see this to me it screams DIY'er who didn't know what they were doing. :whistling2:
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Four inch max spacing, at least here in Louisville.
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unnecessary and wasteful? not to me.
if and when something trips, i want to be able to follow the cord back to the culprit. i got a box full of brand new gfci's for less than regular outlets at auction so i'll be using them any/everywhere!
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I have two in my garage, for the same reason. I wanted to make sure the whole circuit wouldn't go down if one tripped. In the basement, though, I have one GFCI protecting all the outlets in the basement office. I used the little stickers on them.
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Because 90% of the heads of little kids of a certain age will not go through this spacing.
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Oh, they'll go. You just have to push them really hard...
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You bad, you bad. . .:laughing:
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