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I have an outlet box that has 2 copper wires one is black and one is white. I know the whole white on silver and black on brass.

But the outlet that I bought to put into the outlet box requires 3 or 4 lines as shown in it's diagram.

Where can I buy an outlet that will require only one black and one white line and is also a 3 prong receptical?

I can only find a 2 prong one that would work but I want a 3 prong..

if any one can show me a 3 prong outlet that will install into this type of old system then please answer!
 

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If you only have a 2 wire setup then you need to use 2 prong outlets

OR
install a GFCI & label "no ground present"
-these stickers come with the GFCI
 

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hey

not true Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave
If you only have a 2 wire setup then you need to use 2 prong outlets

OR
install a GFCI & label "no ground present"
-these stickers come with the GFCI


what is a GFCI and label no ground preset?

also this is not true that I cannot install a 3 prong - there is a 3 prong over in this wall. I just can't install the new 3 prong that I baught over in the other wall
 

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You may or may not be able to use a three prong receptacle depending on if your wiring system is grounded or not. What type of cable feeds the circuit? Is is bx, or non-metallic (also referred to as romex)? Is there a bare or green conductor in the box?
 

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not true Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave
If you only have a 2 wire setup then you need to use 2 prong outlets

OR
install a GFCI & label "no ground present"
-these stickers come with the GFCI

what is a GFCI and label no ground preset?

also this is not true that I cannot install a 3 prong - there is a 3 prong over in this wall. I just can't install the new 3 prong that I baught over in the other wall
Unless you have a ground you can't install a 3 prong outlet
The fact that someone else did does not make it meet code or safe
You need a ground or need to use a GFCI

Where are you located ?
You don't know what a GFCI outlet is ?
 

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break it down please?

You may or may not be able to use a three prong receptacle depending on if your wiring system is grounded or not. What type of cable feeds the circuit? Is is bx, or non-metallic (also referred to as romex)? Is there a bare or green conductor in the box?

it's as I said before - 2 copper wires - one black - one white.

that is all.

No grounding I guess...

what is a gfci? Please break it down as I don't know about electricity obviously.
 

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Sure you can install that, doesn't mean it is right nor safe. If you want to take a chance of harming yourself or someone else do what you have to do, but you have been warned. Get yourself a GFCI and label it no ground present!
 

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If you tie the black to brass and white to silver both receptacles will work if the tabs are not broke.
Having a hard time understanding bear with me.
 

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if I install the gfci?

if I install the gfci 3 prong would I need to install a grounding wire?

Or should I just go with the 2 prong method - would that need grounding also?
 

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2 prong outlets do not have any grounding, not required since its pre-existing

GFCI is 3 prong & does not need a ground so long as it is labelled no ground present

For electrocnics that have a 3 prong plug you are better off installing a 3 wire circuit to plug them in
 

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If you tied the wires on the outlet as you said it should have power when you plug something in it or test it with a meter.

check back down the line something else must be wrong.
 

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okay

where do I buy gfci 3 prong outlets that work with 2 wirings?


sullin: "If you tied the wires on the outlet as you said it should have power when you plug something in it or test it with a meter.

check back down the line something else must be wrong."

The diagram on this 3 prong that I have shows 4 lines so it might be too new and not adequate for the old system. I have to find one that suits a 2 wiring system.
 

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Forget the diagram that came with the outlet. The diagram is showing the in and out wiring. Your problem right now is to find out why there isn't any power. Check to see if any other outlets are not working because this sound like this is at the end of line. If you find outlets that are not working check breaker/fuse panel to see if breaker tripped or fuse had blown. If you solve that problem, you can buy a GFCI outlet at LOwes, Home Depot etc.
 
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