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Don't like the looks of either of the piping connections.
 

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Thanks Javiles. GRed call a pro to do the work before you get burnt or blow the joint up.

The TP has to be re-piped properly and the gas drip needs attention.

Please listen to the past recommendations, it looks like you didn't get it.
 

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Drip leg does not apply to water pipes.

The pressure/temperature relief valve must have a pipe extension extending down to within 3" of the floor.
 

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Anyone else think that gas supply line looks like it's to small?
I like to install a shut off for the gas supply right where it connects to the wall.
 

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well I confirmed the gas side of this.. and its not only came from a licensed plumber.. but now I happen to look in the horses mouth(the manual) and look what I found...geee..drip leg or sediment trap also with older homes that were grandfathered in and T&P ran up hill to put a T in add 6" leg w/cap and I was told no more that 61/2 long with an 1/8 hole in the cap no more than that so I guess its not going to blow up...btw there is a gas shut-off towards the back just cant see it on that line in the pict.
http://www.waterheaterexplosions.com/R_Drip_Leg.html
http://activerain.com/blogsview/2660972/sediment-traps-in-gas-water-heaters
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well I confirmed the gas side of this.. and its not only came from a licensed plumber.. but now I happen to look in the horses mouth(the manual) and look what I found...geee..drip leg or sediment trap also with older homes that were grandfathered in and T&P ran up hill to put a T in add 6" leg w/cap and I was told no more that 61/2 long with an 1/8 hole in the cap no more than that so I guess its not going to blow up...btw there is a gas shut-off towards the back just cant see it on that line in the pict.
http://www.waterheaterexplosions.com/R_Drip_Leg.html
http://activerain.com/blogsview/2660972/sediment-traps-in-gas-water-heaters
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dirt leg is not installed like that...tee is to be vertical....should have shut off within 3' of appaliance...flex connector has to be stainless steel and a min of 1/2id in size..ben sr
 

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The shut off is near the back close to the wall and its been there for over 30 yrs..
 

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I just can't believe some of the codes of which supposedly intelligent people think. Put the shut off valve within 3 ft. of the appliance that may be on fire and could even be confined within a closet. So with that in mind maybe we should put the fire extinguisher in the cabinet above the cook top. DUH

Oh, BTW, the two connections of the drip leg to the T are running and bull headed. In this instance running is correct and bull headed is not correct.
 

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First of all there is no such thing as grandfathered in, that only applies the the original installation on the original code. if i go into a home to do an inspection on a lets say new washing machine hook up and i walk by the water heater and its the original unit that was installed under that dates code, i cant make you make changes to it, now if you replace the heater you must now bring it up to the current code. no grandfather clause what so ever. what the guys here are telling you about that safety line is correct, i happen to do privet inspections and i am a licensed inspector, here's the reasoning for the new P&T code. years ago the safety line was piped in 3/8 OD flexible to the out side of the building, over the years it was determined that the line was too small and would clog easily, layer of paint, wasp would pack them with mud and lay eggs, etc, so they brought up the line size to 3/4 piped to the exterior of the building that was better but guess what lines still kept getting clogged and when p&t valve needed to fire it could not because of obstructions in the line, again for multiple seasons. and also if it did fire and and did not shut off well we had wasted water for who knows how long. so the code changed again, pipe it to the floor or if you want to pipe it to the outside it needs to have an air gap in a visible location in a downward position. what this does if the valve fires and the line is clogged it will over flow in the air gap. and the homeowner will be able to see it.

what you have done is Create a possibility for harm lets say the line over the years clog's out side for whatever reason if that valve blows at maximum capacity and someone is standing next to the heater your now forcing hot water through a 3/4 opening reducing it to 3/8 what do you think will happen.

its so simple and easy just pipe it down 6 inches above the floor. if your not going to take the advise of all professionals on this site why bother asking. this site has a great bunch of guys giving very good advise.
 

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Yes I do understand what your saying and will make the corrections.
I have tested that line and it is clear. for all practical purposes. however,, I will put in a new leg for the T&P and have it 6" above the floor..however I was doing what another plumber indicated as well.. and as far as the gas line leg..I need to turn that horizontal.. then I should be good.

I do appreciate everyones help.. Im just giving my side of this what I was advised as well.. I do understand that is its not opened and its orginal then its still within its own code...
 

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Why didn't you reuse the black pipe from the first picture? Why did you change it to Galvanized? Take it apart and pipe it with Black and use the recommendations suggested.

Take that copper off the TP and run a straight piece right down to the above the floor and forget it.

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