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Are you joking with me? I understand electricity.Without getting to technical this is whatt was probably done. The dishwasher frame was bonded and grounded to the copper pipe.
A wire is run from the frame to the copper pipe. This bonds the frame which stops someone getting shock and grounds the dishwasher which allows faults to be cleared by tripping the circuit breaker.
I posted information so that not just you could read and get posssible get something out of it, but others as well, since this is DIY forum.Are you joking with me? I understand electricity.
If anyone has an answer to my actual question I'd really appreciate it.
Run a new circuit and be done with it....What's the correct thing to do here?
Yeah, it's not. As I said, I added a clamp there myself, but stopped short of connecting the ground wire to the dishwasher because as I reread the code it became unclear.You should also ensure that your main service is bonded to the water pipe where it enters your house with # 4 (200 amp service) or #6 (under 200 amps) copper wire.
If your gonna cop an attitude with someone who is trying to help you out, because you a clearly over your head here, my advice is to hire an electricianjeffnc said:Are you joking with me? I understand electricity.
If anyone has an answer to my actual question I'd really appreciate it.
Not talking about the dishwasher here.Yeah, it's not. As I said, I added a clamp there myself, but stopped short of connecting the ground wire to the dishwasher because as I reread the code it became unclear.
Assuming that the proper bonding has been done with the house electrical service and all the water pipes are metal ...copper etc.. what NJ Marine said would be accurate. Only thing that might cause an issue is if you connected to the hot water pipe instead of the cold.Are you joking with me? I understand electricity.
If anyone has an answer to my actual question I'd really appreciate it.
You should bond across the hot water heater!Assuming that the proper bonding has been done with the house electrical service and all the water pipes are metal ...copper etc.. what NJ Marine said would be accurate. Only thing that might cause an issue is if you connected to the hot water pipe instead of the cold.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. There's nothing connected within the first 20 feet of water pipe entering the crawlspace from the ground.Not talking about the dishwasher here.
I am talking about the main electrical panel being ground to the water pipe. It must be bonded to the water pipe within 5 feet of where the pipe enters your home.
OK.If you ground other things to the water piping, but the main panel is not properly grounded to the water piping, it will do you no good.
I'm not sure it is. Other than that badly connected wire in the vicinity, which might or might not have been used by the dishwasher, I don't see any evidence of anything being connected to the copper piping.In your case, the water piping is being used as a grounding conductor.
It's time to head deeper into the crawlspace jungle and see if I can figure this out.There also should be a supplemental grounding conductor, an 8 foot ground rod, (and possibly 2 depending on local codes), also connected to the main panel or meter base.
See if there is a bare copper wire, about the thickness of a pencil, going into your main panel, or into your meter box outside and if there is, see if you can find where it or they originate.Yeah, that's what I was talking about. There's nothing connected within the first 20 feet of water pipe entering the crawlspace from the ground.
OK.
I'm not sure it is. Other than that badly connected wire in the vicinity, which might or might not have been used by the dishwasher, I don't see any evidence of anything being connected to the copper piping.
It's time to head deeper into the crawlspace jungle and see if I can figure this out.
Thanks for the code quote.
Why would it be bare?See if there is a bare copper wire, about the thickness of a pencil, going into your main panel, or into your meter box outside and if there is, see if you can find where it or they originate.
Cheaper than insulated wire, and ground wires don't need insulation considering that they often run between exposed metal objects.Why would it be bare?
Just what I usually see, but I was going to bring that up. In my house it is actually insulated and is black, but pretty obvious in my case at the water meter, as about 2 feet was stripped to jump around the water meter.Why would it be bare?