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i can never keep'em straight but this one is a 240 volt one.the one with the " T " on the other side is 120 volt 20 amp type. not as common as the 240, as the later is a duplex.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 

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thanks guys. that chart help better my understanding of the outlet. it's next to my subpanel in the basement. maybe for an air conditioner? I wanna see if it was properly wired. how will I be able to tell if it's 14 or 12 Guage (which is what is needed right ?) 2 hot 1 grnd if not mistken.thanks. I will be going to homedepot to get me a multimeter to make sure it still has juice and pulling 240.
 

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#12 is pretty stiff wire , as 14 is easy to bend.if you have a wire stripper that will tell you. if it is straight 240, you can use a 12-2WG you have to reidentify the white wire with black tape as it is now a hot wire.:wink2::wink2:
 

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thanks circuitman. upon opening the outlet to check the wire for juice with the volt pen. the wires were pulled but never hooked up throughly. lol I dunno the reason why but the breaker is in place and it seems like they pulled 12-3 wires as I see red.black white and bare. so do I just cap off the white? or leave it alone as I will hook it up tmrw when I shut off the panel.
 

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Before you hook it up, what are you planning on using it for? That will determine what type receptacle you need and whether you need a neutral.

Also, caulk the gap around the box.
 

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I will be installing an outlet for evse 16amp charging at 240. most doesn't require neutral. I'm thinking bout running some conduit to the outside or is extension cords safe? for conduits running outside ,wires are different then indoors correct?
 

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For EV charging, a 50A circuit would probably be a good idea. Even if you're not using all 50A now, you may want to soon and it's easier to set it up right in the first place than the redo it later. Extension cords are not acceptable as a substitute for permanent wiring! Run conduit from the panel to your receptacle location. THWN wire is what's normally used in conduit most of the time, and it is acceptable for wet locations.
 

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thanks mpoulton. I see what your saying. can I just run the conduit outside to the evse half way down drive way directly? I see some folks use conjunction box next to it. is that necessary? I was looking at the Clipper creek lsc 20. it says for outdoor, I'm just worry when the rain comes.thanks
 

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thanks mpoulton. I see what your saying. can I just run the conduit outside to the evse half way down drive way directly? I see some folks use conjunction box next to it. is that necessary? I was looking at the Clipper creek lsc 20. it says for outdoor, I'm just worry when the rain comes.thanks
The manual shows that charger with power entering through the top. That doesn't seem optimal for your installation. You'd need to install a post to mount it on, and run conduit up it, then back down into the top of the charger. You may find a different charger that would fit better. They make a post mount for that charger, but it's $700.

Also, since you are installing a new circuit and have the power available, there's no reason not to go with a faster charger. They have a 25A version of the same one, and they have much higher current chargers available too.
 

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Reasons for not going larger.
He is renting and shouldn't be wiring himself.
The main is a FPE stablok panel.

http://www.diychatroom.com/f18/can-someone-shed-some-light-my-panel-363209/
Yikes, good catch Oso954 of cross referencing the posts. I would not touch that panel either because of FPE. A renter should not be doing work on the panel, he should be talking to his landlord about it; which is what we so far agree with.

thanks circuitman. upon opening the outlet to check the wire for juice with the volt pen. the wires were pulled but never hooked up throughly. lol I dunno the reason why but the breaker is in place and it seems like they pulled 12-3 wires as I see red.black white and bare. so do I just cap off the white? or leave it alone as I will hook it up tmrw when I shut off the panel.
Also, kbb1 this statement is telling me that you may be biting off a bit more than you can chew with this project. If you don't know that you don't need to use a neutral with a 240 circuit then don't attempt this. So far you have not listed the actual charger you are planning on using, you have just stated "I was looking at the Clipper creek lsc 20", you need to know which one you will be using (according to what is required) and then run the proper lines. I have seen 20 amp (need 12 gauge), 30 amp (need 10 gauge) and 50 amp (need 6 gauge) chargers. The amperage will determine the gauge wire you will need. Don't even try using a 12 gauge with a 30 or 50amp charger.

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I'm just worry when the rain comes.thanks
If this will be exposed to rain or wet location the breaker should be a GFCI.

But overall the two facts that the main is a FPE and you rent you should not be touching this.
 

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I'm using 12-2 on a 20amp double pole that was there to begin with. the evse is 16amp draw. iI'm ordering the hardwire one to be setup on a fence post.the evse is ClipperClipper creek lsc 20. indoor/out door use. hardwire won't require my breaker to be gfci. I'm gonna use a junction box to meet. evse comes with a conduit pigtail. so I'll pull conduit from subpanel out to meet in junction box. I'll ground the box. and post pics. thanks!
 
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