[lylesvegas]

I am getting ready to redo my upstairs bathroom and will be doing a tile shower and tile floor. My stupid question is since I am replacing my toilet and vanity, should I install the new stuff before or after the floor is laid ???

 

[DangerMouse]

I'd recommend floor first. also....there are no stupid questions on this forum, only stupid answers.

DM

 

[joecaption]

Not sure how you would do that when the tile goes under all of them.
Start at the ceiling and work your way down.
There can not be anything in the room while your working, including baseboards.

 

[lylesvegas]

Not sure how you would do that when the tile goes under all of them.
Start at the ceiling and work your way down.
There can not be anything in the room while your working, including baseboards.

Yeah, I just was not sure if it was ok to tile around the toilet and vanity... Thanks for the replies.....

 

[joecaption]

Nope never.

 

[JazMan]

It's perfectly ok to tile around a vanity, but not the toilet. Only tile around a vanity if you're keeping the old one of course.

Tell us more about this project. Are you gonna do it yourself or hire someone? Either way start researching because showers are not easy to build right and even many people you can hire do them wrong.

Jaz

 

[joecaption]

I personaly would never tile around a vanty for a few reasons.
At some point if someone wants to change the vanity there's going to be a bare area.
If anything leaks under that sink, or the toilet over flows you just left a pond for the water to pool up under the vanity.

 

[cleveman]

Someone should make some tracings of their feet, and tile up to some footprints coming into the bathroom, then go back and fill in the footprint with a contrasting tile.

Would look cool with some baby footprints from the children in the family.

 

[jeffnc]

Yeah, I just was not sure if it was ok to tile around the toilet and vanity... Thanks for the replies.....

Tiling around the toilet is horrible. Tiling around the vanity is no problem and often done. Still I prefer tiling under that too. That way if it ever changes you'll have no issue. Imagine going to a pedestal sink some day.

 

[lylesvegas]

It's perfectly ok to tile around a vanity, but not the toilet. Only tile around a vanity if you're keeping the old one of course.

Tell us more about this project. Are you gonna do it yourself or hire someone? Either way start researching because showers are not easy to build right and even many people you can hire do them wrong.

Jaz

Thanks for asking JazMan, It is my tiny bathroom that will be completely updated with a new tile walk in shower, new vanity, new toilet, new lighting, and a tile floor. After much debate with the wife and talking with the very nice gentleman at the tile store we decided to "maybe" hire them. Now I did alot of research in the past few weeks so when we went in the store I kind of knew some things to ask about.
I know I want to go with 13x13 on the shower walls, 2x2 on the shower floor and 20x20 on the bathroom floor. I've decided to buy everything to do the bathroom as I my wallet allows me and then make the final choice if I do it or them. I will certainly demo the room myself :thumbup:.... Here are some current pics of it now....

 

[gregzoll]

I would leave the tub, maybe the toilet, but toss the vanity. Look also as to what people are doing with their places around you. Are they going with Porcelain, Ceramic, or Natural stone for floors. Also are they going with Granite sink & counter integrated, or the composite like you have currently.

Same goes for Kitchens, what are they doing in your area, especially if a sell is in the near future, or people are trying to turn the neighborhood around, to make it a place that attracts others that are looking to settle there, vs. having people continue to move out. There is a lot to be desired when making upgrades to your home.

 

[lylesvegas]

Thanks Gregzoll but I am in love with a porcelain walk in shower. I find myself looking at other people's everyday !!!!:whistling2:

 

[JazMan]

Aside from quality workmanship, the method for waterproofing in most important. I recommend doing surface waterproofing instead of the old traditional method. I think the best is Kerdi, but now there are others like Laticrete. Liquid applied waterproofing is good too.

Research all the methods, also look here; http://picasaweb.google.com/101434355976808740925?gsessionid=NiOBn_6vDAQozljiq8sCTg

I would not buy anything unless I was gonna do all the work. Why pay retail for materials if you're gonna hire a contractor who can buy it for less? Let the tile setter figure, buy, deliver and be responsible. If you buy stuff and it's wrong or bad, you have to straighten it out while the meter runs. Of course I would also not buy from a retail store. I'd find a qualified licensed tile setter and sit back.

Thanks Gregzoll but I am in love with a porcelain walk in shower. I find myself looking at other people's everyday !!!!

Be sure you do not look from the window, ask to go inside!:laughing:

Be sure to check back here with any questions.

Jaz

 

[jeffnc]

Look also as to what people are doing with their places around you.

A rule of thumb is to match the quality/cost of the neighboring homes. I'd say you should do at least that. When all the homes have vinyl in the bathroom, for example, it's a relatively inexpensive way to stand out from them by installing tile.

The idea can be overdone, but for some things it's a good idea.

 

[JazMan]

When all the homes have vinyl in the bathroom, for example, it's a relatively inexpensive way to stand out from them by installing tile.

I thought you were gonna say, "When all the homes have vinyl in the bathroom, for example, It's time to move":laughing:

Jaz

 

[jeffnc]

I'm actually surprised at how prevalent vinyl is in otherwise nice or decent homes. Such an easy upgrade. People will put in crown molding in their entire house before they'll put tile in their bathroom. I'd do the opposite, but what do I know?

 

[TrailerParadise]

Never a good idea to tile around a toilet. The idiots that my parents rented to a few years back ripped up all of the bathroom tile (without permission, i might add) and retiled with vinyl tiles. problem was they tiled around the toilet and they pulled the toilet up to remove the old tile and then just put it back down and didnt replace the wax ring, so it began to leak. Dark tiles meant nobody noticed. Now that toilet is sitting in a divot in the floor, very close to going through the floor, on the second story. Bad combo. So now my parents have to shell out mega bucks to have a contractor come in and replace the subfloor, tile, and reinstall the bathroom fixtures. Never tile around a toilet. And if you pick up the toilet, use a new wax ring!

 

[jeffnc]

Never a good idea to tile around a toilet.

With all due respect to this idea, to be fair tiling around the toilet does not cause it to leak. It's a dumb idea for other reasons.

 

[gregzoll]

TrailerParadise, depending on where your parents live, they can file a small court claim against the tenants. Also, it may be covered under the insurance they are holding on the structure, regardless if caused by a tenant or not.

 

[TrailerParadise]

Jeffnc, i know tiling around it doesnt cause it to leak, i was just making the point that if something happened to cause a leak, and you just tile around it, it makes an excellent pathway for water to get under the tile and start to rot out your subfloor without you knowing anything about it. Gregzoll, they already tried the small claims court deal, they couldnt find a forwarding address for the old tenants.