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To stain a wood deck with semi-transparent stain, which company makes the best product, choosing between Porter, Behr and Sherwin Williams?
No. If you prime before stain, the stain won't be able to penetrate into the wood.Prime before solid stain???
No. If you prime before stain, the stain won't be able to penetrate into the wood.
They are "supposed" to. Oil based stains penetrate much more than a latex stain will.solid stain penetrates the wood?
Unfortunately, at this time we're forced into using latex solid stain...They are "supposed" to. Oil based stains penetrate much more than a latex stain will.
?? Why confuse the issue? Problem Solver Primer, though it specs for use on pressure treated and under solid stain, decking isn't really a common usage.Rent a vibrating-plate sander, & use 60-grit sheets with backer-pads.
"New wood" after you're done!!
Some companies have dropped Solid-Oil decking stains.
Sikkens has a "Hybrid" though....
No...no primer exists for solid color stains, other than one from Cabot for deeper solid colors.
Faron
This is what covers the deck now:Rent a vibrating-plate sander, & use 60-grit sheets with backer-pads.
"New wood" after you're done!!
Some companies have dropped Solid-Oil decking stains.
Sikkens has a "Hybrid" though....
No...no primer exists for solid color stains, other than one from Cabot for deeper solid colors.
Faron
LOLOh, to dream! I'm sorry to be the dark cloud hanging over your parade Diva. Aside from the uprights, what of the sides of the deck boards? I'm the anti-Faron! You know, I'm just realizing that we totally hijacked lil bonnie's thread. Sorry Bonnie, can't speak to Porter, so of the three I would choose SW.
Faron:laughing:, I think you misunderstood my comment. I, as is done routinely on this board, disagreed/offered a different resolution to the OP's problem. I don't think you followed the thread closely, OP thanked you for your optimism. I didn't share the same, therefore I'm your opposite, the anti. I have no doubt that you stripped a deck with paper, as I've stripped many things with paper. It's a lot of work. OP has a two-tier deck, and I don't see stripping that with paper to a semi-trans qaulity state. It's not cost effective or practical for a homeowner to do. You and I, as pros, can discuss Cabot's PS primer, but as you agree, it's not an everyday deck application. OP had primer stuck in her mind throughout the thread and I thought it best to take any thoughts of "priming" the deck out of the equation, before a problem gets compounded. That's all. I agree also with doing nothing. I suggested she clean it up lightly, make it look good and enjoy it for the summer until it's officially stripped. There was no challenge on my part.Wow!
I have an "anti-Faron"?!?!:huh:
I too got mixed-up on the ORIGINAL question from Littlebonnie!!!
I was replying to items Cruisediva asked in post 3, as if THAT was the OP, when CD brough up priming b4 staining.
JS-
* I realize Cabot's Problem-solving primer isn't used very often for DECKS.
It IS one of the VERY few primers available for decking-use under solid-colors though, as CruiseDiva said she was gonna use.
* It's just not necessary most of the time, assuming good prep done.
* I also realize all the series of stains Cabot has. We used to sell them. When we became a bigger Sikkens dealer, we were able to drop Cabot. Sikkens was getting way more popular here. We'll let Lowe's have Cabot...they'll never have Sikkens!
CruiseDivaNJ-
* Since you mentioned this is an interim job, consider doing nothing this year! In a sense, you'd be wasting a lot of time & $$.
* I've sanded my 15y/o Construction-Heart Redwood deck-floor twice. Still looks very good. I'm using Sikkens SRD Redwood #089.
* In 2008, the year b4 DD's HS-graduation, I DID sand ALL my spindles, handrails, had the steps (18 2x6's!!!) planed, 2x10 Redwood skirt-boards, 2x12 Redwood stringers, and 6 4x4 Redwood posts.
* I bought a Porter-Cable square Palm-sander, and went through a lot of 60-grit paper!!!!
* I can post pics if you'd like!
* I never had any solid stain on though...always a S/T.
* You CAN sand through old stain. It just takes a while. You WON'T however, be able to do anything about in-between boards....unless you spend a couple days on your knees with a router and sanding-drums!
* I'd just buy new lumber!!
* Consider clear glass/plexi-panels to replace some spindles!! Saw some damn cool ones at our home show this Feb.! They can etch anything into them. College logos, team stuff, family things, etc.
>>> I KNOWETH WELL of what I speaketh here!!:yes:
Faron
Thanks. We're probably just going to sand the floor & other horizontals that were exposed to sun and have wear and redo it with solid stain, for this year. I unexpectedly became on a budget this year!! Next year I hopefully shoudlnt have this issue!Wow!
>>>>>snip>>>>CruiseDivaNJ-
* Since you mentioned this is an interim job, consider doing nothing this year! In a sense, you'd be wasting a lot of time & $$.
* I've sanded my 15y/o Construction-Heart Redwood deck-floor twice. Still looks very good. I'm using Sikkens SRD Redwood #089.
* In 2008, the year b4 DD's HS-graduation, I DID sand ALL my spindles, handrails, had the steps (18 2x6's!!!) planed, 2x10 Redwood skirt-boards, 2x12 Redwood stringers, and 6 4x4 Redwood posts.
* I bought a Porter-Cable square Palm-sander, and went through a lot of 60-grit paper!!!!
* I can post pics if you'd like!
* I never had any solid stain on though...always a S/T.
* You CAN sand through old stain. It just takes a while. You WON'T however, be able to do anything about in-between boards....unless you spend a couple days on your knees with a router and sanding-drums!
* I'd just buy new lumber!!
* Consider clear glass/plexi-panels to replace some spindles!! Saw some damn cool ones at our home show this Feb.! They can etch anything into them. College logos, team stuff, family things, etc.
>>> I KNOWETH WELL of what I speaketh here!!:yes:
Faron
Down to 36 girt....with effort, its working like a dream! DH started with 60 grit, but when he went back and rented a hand sander he got 60 grit for it and it worked better..so back I went for him and picked up the 60 grit for the other sander.Rent a vibrating-plate sander, & use 60-grit sheets with backer-pads.
"New wood" after you're done!!
Some companies have dropped Solid-Oil decking stains.
Sikkens has a "Hybrid" though....
No...no primer exists for solid color stains, other than one from Cabot for deeper solid colors.
Faron