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I'm unsure what exactly got put down the toilet, but whatever it is it is super stuck. I have a very stiff toilet auger type snake it's like a long pole that the snake comes out of, I have a regular drain snake, ive tried plunging, I've tried coat hanger and reaching up as far as I could. It all goes up to the big bend and stops I've slammed the toilet snake as hard as I could and bent it all up to no avail, I removed the toilet and tried to go from the bottom into the bowl. Nothing dumped water both ways nothing more than it now flushes very very slow both on the flange and off. So as a last ditch effort does anyone have any suggestions for me before I run out and grab a new toilet? If you must ask YES I have a 2 year old.. the world of wonders.. thanks in advance.

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A tooth brush is what I finally removes, daughters house with grandkids. Dis you try using one of the snakes from the bottom? Assuming the obstruction came from the bowl it might push back in that direction.

With the toilet off, can you get the regular drain snake through so you have it on both sides? If so, then attach a rope to the snake and pull it back through. When snaking I would push enough through so the rope is secured where the snake will never exit. That way in case the rope comes off the snake is still there to try again.

Once you have the rope through you can attach various objects to pull back and forth to dislodge whatever it is.

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Electric snake with a root cutting tip from the bottom. You might break the toilet, but whatever. If it's a Barbie doll, you might be able to get through it. If it's a HESS truck, not so much.

Maybe try lubrication. Dump the water. Put some dish soap or penetrating oil or something up there.

How about a heat gun? Maybe you can melt or soften the obstruction.

Do you have an inspection camera? I got one for like 20 bucks that plugs into my cell phone. If you can see what's going on, maybe you'll have a better idea how to proceed.
 

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Oooh, with a 2 year old, I found that Mighty Morphin Rangers were the boss. He would drop one in the toilet, flush it and it would begin to "morph" itself into something else and was impossible to get through.

Determine if your toilet is a low volume one (1.6 gpf). If it is old technology (5 gpf), then it is time to move it into the 21st century with a low flow toilet. I currently use and recommend to my clients Niagara Conservation toilets. They flush completely with .8 gpf and cost a whopping $164 at HD. They are ADA compliant, which may mean a steppy stool for the 2yo for a while.
 

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Determine if your toilet is a low volume one (1.6 gpf). If it is old technology (5 gpf), then it is time to move it into the 21st century with a low flow toilet. I currently use and recommend to my clients Niagara Conservation toilets. They flush completely with .8 gpf and cost a whopping $164 at HD.
Not being familiar with the technology, is a low-volume toilet less prone to getting plugged up?

We hear enough negative (15 flushes!) about these that I wonder if there are any positives, beyond lower water use. I live where water is plentiful, so that's not really a motivator for me.
 

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Not being familiar with the technology, is a low-volume toilet less prone to getting plugged up?
The technology includes a 3" waterway, so I'd have to say they are less prone to plugs. Not that it can't happen, just not as much and it saves water.
 

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Several times when my kids were little they flushed a toy or the toilet paper holder down the commode. Each time I resorted to removing the commode, taking it outside and back flushing it with a hose - worked every time.
 

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Several times when my kids were little they flushed a toy or the toilet paper holder down the commode. Each time I resorted to removing the commode, taking it outside and back flushing it with a hose - worked every time.
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You're almost there by working on the opposite end, but for really stuck items not quite, and I think you got real lucky the hose worked. :biggrin2:
 

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My younger brother lives with my mom. They had a toilet that worked sporadically for years. He would use a plunger on it whenever it slowed,and it would work perfectly for a few days. Long story short,we took it outside and tried to flush it both ways with a garden hose. Turning it over,shaking it bla bla bla. Dropped it on the concrete,oops-it's junk now!
i took a hammer to it to finish it off- and inside the toilet we found a 'Cover Girl' round makeup case,just the perfect size as to act as a 'flapper valve' in the upper part of the curve.
Showed it to mom,she said 'That's Lisa's!" Sister Lisa had passed away about 10 years ago...
 

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I couldn't count the times I found little cars or even my keys in my work boots the next morning. I think my youngest son was the culprit but never could prove it.
BOOTS!-I took a 10 day motorcycle trip with 5 other guys years ago. Got home,sat down next to my girlfriend,and took my boots off. Something in the bottom of my boot-reached in and pulled out a condom[not used luckily,but unrolled].
I know it was Payback for a practical joke that I pulled on one of the guys while on the trip.
 

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My younger brother lives with my mom. They had a toilet that worked sporadically for years. He would use a plunger on it whenever it slowed,and it would work perfectly for a few days. Long story short,we took it outside and tried to flush it both ways with a garden hose. Turning it over,shaking it bla bla bla. Dropped it on the concrete,oops-it's junk now!
i took a hammer to it to finish it off- and inside the toilet we found a 'Cover Girl' round makeup case,just the perfect size as to act as a 'flapper valve' in the upper part of the curve.
Showed it to mom,she said 'That's Lisa's!" Sister Lisa had passed away about 10 years ago...
May Lisa rest in peace. Bless her heart.
 

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The secret to pigging a toilet that's partially plugged.

I've pigged lots of miles of pipe line but to pig a toilet I had to invent my own pig.
A shop towel or any sturdy cloth rag with a clove hitch knot tied around about the center will do the trick. Why a clove hitch? It won't come loose, believe me. Now the trick is to get the rope to flush. Being some water will flow on a partial plug maybe you'll get lucky. If the rope is too bulky tie a string about several ft. long to the rope and flush the string then pull the rope through by the the attached string.

The commode is outdoors and blocked up on some 2x4s maybe, so the rope or string is now out the bottom. Pull a length of rope out the bottom then tie the pig ( rag ) as pictured then pulling the upper end the rag pig comes out the top. If nothing was dis lodged, increase the size of the pig and repeat until the object surrenders.

If this method doesn't seem worthy go ahead and reach for the sledge hammer.
 

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My 2 cents:

Shut off the water supply, flush the toilet, remove water from bowl with towel (wear good, waterproof gloves), remove tank, see if you can spot obstruction down hole.

If not, remove toilet and see if you can spot obstruction from bottom. If not, see if you can push obstruction back out from below.

If not, see if water drains down drain pipe in floor. If not, obstruction may be in pipe. If water backs up, if drain pipe is exposed, use auger to see how far down obstruction is. You may be able to cut pipe to clear it and then replace pipe.

Be sure to temporarily seal up drain pipe so sewer gases don't get in the house.(i put a towel in a grocery sack, but don't push it too far into the pipe)

If pipe is low, make sure others don't use water so it doesn't back up and out your pipe. :vs_whistle:

Replace the toilet seal on flange and maybe flush valve while you're at it.
 
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Low-flow toilets have been kinda given a bad name, by manufacturers trying to use old, high-flow bowls with newer tank water controls. The physics /design of most old bowls, was wide and fairly shallow, with water lazily jetted from under rim to cause water to swirl down drain....mesmerizing to kids, that is!
That issue worsened due to another high-flow bit of engineering: the exit hole to the sewer pipe. This, on most toilets, for over 100 years, has been a reduced diameter, of approximately 2.3”. IDK what bright child thought that was smart, but that reducer, alone, has caused EPIC numbers of plumber calls, because it’s difficult for too many things to get through that reduced hole! THAT was done, probably thinking that the 3” below-bowl P-trap, and the high flow of water, plus the reduced exit, would break-up solids, the better to make those transit the waste line (also 3” diameter)...the two types of engineering cannot work together...no telling how many thousands of “hybrid” toilets got sold, over the past approx. 20 years or so.
SO....if a kid (or elder) tries to flush something unflushable...it will either wedge in the P-trap, or, get stuck at the waste exit bottleneck.
Either way, you Might likely have to remove the toilet, dig-out whatever is stuck in there, then reinstall the toilet...remember to get a new wax ring for that!!
We found a new Caroma, 2-piece toilet at a local home show, maybe about 10 years ago. The demo at the fair, showed it flushing multiple golf balls; very effective! JUST what we needed! (Except, we didn’t find out til way too late, that the 2nd one was a hybridized POS...we’ve since made that work).
KEY: the trap exit hole is 3” diameter, same as the waste pipe....and, it has a steep, deep, conical bowl.
That means, it really does take only .8 gal to do most flushing, because the physics of the steep, conical bowl, forces the mingy .8 gal of water, to move faster, powering the flush...and still only uses gravity to do it.
NOTHING has got stuck in that, since installed...not an old person’s wash rags, not paper products (those just won’t flush...gotta retrieve from bowl), not kid toys, not small animals given a quick “burial at sea”.
Now, there are a few toilets that don’t even use the multiple under-rim inlet holes; they have smooth porcelain under there...MUCH better for reducing nasty odors that collect in the usual inlet holes...instead, they jet more water from one or two points, horizontally forward, from nearer the back of the upper part of bowl.
There are also toilets with compressed air assists, which help low-flow flushes.
But, we will never again buy any toilet with a reduced exit hole.
Unfortunately, those foolish 2.3” diameter exits are pretty much the only kind HomeDepot, or any of those big box stores, sells....those, with wide, shallow bowls, are a disaster for low-volume flush requirements.
Oh...and, renters: as long as you do it right.... we 1st installed ours in the place we rented (or else plumber’$ visit$ would have prevented our ever being able to move!) ....upon moving, we simply reinstalled the landlord’s toilet, took ours to our new place.
 
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