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So, Zstopa, kudos for trying to figure it out. But..... you've got a couple problems:

1. You are burning a lot of calories for a ceiling fan that could be replaced for $75. Part of DIY is learning/playing/taking things apart. But part of DIY is also knowing when to call it a day, park your ceiling fan on your tool bench, and walk away. I've pried apart many a defective item for fun, but some things don't merit fixing.

2. Your plan to have a switch control the light and chain control the fan is going to fail unless you have the right combo of wires in your switch box. If you only have a switch loop at the switch or if you only have the old wiring (shown in the picture) at the switch - then your plan will likely result in a switch that can turn the both fan and light on and off. But not independent action, unless you futz around with the control boxes inside the fan canopy. There are other ways to accomplish what you want to do, but pending confirmation that the fan isn't destined for the dump.... See #1 or #3

3. The problem with cheap things (like your made-in-china fan from the big box store) is that when they fail they tend to end up costing you more than a better quality item would have in the first place (how's that for one convoluted abuse of the english language :wink:). You will have to find out what part of the fan failed - something BROKE - hence the sparks/smoke/etc.

Rewiring or reconnecting your jBox and switch is not going to fix whatever went poof.

And, if one thing went poof, it may not have been the only point of failure.

And, just to be a REAL stick in the mud... are you renting? able to do electrical work in your jurisdiction? do you have HOer's/renter's insurance?

There are REAL SAFETY ISSUES at stake here. Old wiring + inexperience = MAJOR FIRE RISK.

Don't let our flippant comments discourage you. Just know that most on the best part of the forum (electrical) are just trying to help you do it right or to save you from the same mistakes we have made.....
 

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here's a diagram of the situation in my ceiling box. I know I tied the fan into the uncapped whire at location C but dont remember what i did with the fan's black and blue..when i took it off i didnt have enough slack to leave wires in tact.

Seeking to have wall switch turn on/off light only and have pull chain operate fan.

If the attachment is too small, save to desktop and open with paint. ty!
I looked at your diagram - good job at showing us what is going on. I am worried that you don't have a great idea of theory or application. It's time to start doing some reading on the forum about how electrical systems work. If you are interested I've got the name of a great book about old wiring systems.

The uncapped wire at 'c' is a pigtail. The 'black' wires may not all be hot (often with old wiring it is impossible to tell by appearance what is hot and what is neutral).

You are going to have to let us know what is going on in the switch box before we can start making guesses as to what is going on in the ceiling.

And lastly, Zstopa, please please please tell me that you have switched off the breaker that controls this circuit and confirmed that the power is off with some sort of voltage tester. If you do not have this basic tool, then it is time to step away from the wiring.
 

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The fan isnt the issue..its completely fine.
This is what you said, "Anyways 2 weeks ago out of nowhere with just the fan running and lights off got some popping noises, a little smoke and a little shooting blue flame out of the fan..was quite a way to wake up.."

You really think the fan is just fine??? :laughing:
 
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