[Stanchek]

I want to lay some type of tile at the entry. It is a small area of 4'x7'. The entry is now covered in parquet that we don't like (house built in 1999). The subfloor is 3/4 or 7/8 on joists @ 24" o.c. (need to check on that).

Questions:

1: How do you remove the glue form under the parquet flooring? Just scrap it off?
2: What does the flooring need to be under the tile for this small an area? Add 1/4" cement board to subfloor then mortor and tile?
3:The tile will be surrounded by 3/4" hardwood floors going in after the tile work. Will the tile and hardwoods be the same height? Can I make them the same height?

The only way I've found to get up parquet is to just scrape. Sometimes I just replace the subfloor because it's faster. You could alway put transitions between the tile and hardwoods, but personally I like a smooth transition. You didn't say what the hardwoods are going on. Is it the same plywood that the parquet is on? If so, 1/4 in cement board on top of the subfloor would work good. If you wait until the hardwoods are in, you can then lay your tile to the exact height of the wood. Tile before, and your just guessing the height, because of sanding and finish variations. When you finish the tile, don't grout the lines against the wood floors or they will crack. You should use a color matched grout caulk.

 

[Stanchek]

Everything is on the same subfloor level. I was thinking about doing the tile first to avoid the moisture getting to the hardwood floors. If the other way is better than I am all for it. Thanks for the reply.

You shouldn't have any moisture problem at all. I assume you meant from the mortar. Yeah, it's just that you have a little play with the height of the tile. With the wood, you have none. I would do the math before hand, just to be sure you have room for the 1/4 in cement board. Good luck

 

[Stanchek]

The tile should be done first. The other way is not better. You should have a piece of the wood handy to help gauge the transition.

Forget natural stone tiles on a single layer subfloor especially if the joists are 24 o.c. Chances are the joists won't meet the deflection requirements for slate. Ceramic/porcelain should be fine if the home was built to modern codes and everything is in good shape.

There are several ways to get to 3/4" with concrete backers. Backers come in at least 4 thicknesses, 1/4-5/16-3/8-1/2". Tiles vary too as you know. Add about 1/8" total for the thin set under the backer and to set the tiles.

Jaz

Do that at your own peril. You won't know the exact height of the finished hardwoods till they're done. Also, you don't even know the joist spread or weather or not there are slat boards under it. And you could always add more support under the entry if needed.

 

[Stanchek]

First you MUST verify the joist spacing and the subfloor thickness before you can get any straight answers for your questions. Jumping the gun accomplishes nothing.

Here we go again Stancheski. If the subfloor is in fact only 3/4" thick, and the joists are in fact spaced 24" on center, adding 1/4" cement board isn't the way to go. The deflection-between-the-joists will be much too great to support the tile properly. That is a prescription for cracking tile and grout in the near future.

Let's get some facts together before we go off screwing up someone's new flooring.

True enough, I read his post to quickly and jumped over that fact. But since he wants to match the levels of the floors, adding some support from underneath is about the only way to go, is it not? Also, would you agree that the tile should be done after the hardwoods? Every time we've tried to do the tile first in these situations, the height was just slightly different.