[Startingover]

In daughters bathroom is a water closet with a shower. 30 yo house. There was an original ceiling light in the water closet.

The shower was dark so I had a handyman install a light inside the shower. The kind where the whole thing needs replaced when bulb burns out. Moisture resistant.

Both lights are on one dimmer switch.

Last month the shower light ONLY went out. Before we could buy another, it came back on!

This week same thing. Shower light ONLY went out.

Whats going on and what do we do?

(I say ‘we’ cause I might as well be her property manager.

Thks

 

[HandyAndyInNC]

The issue is that moisture is getting into the light and/or the socket, or both and causing it to not make a good connection. Should have installed a water-proof fixture. There is no ground on the fixture itself and nothing to prevent moisture from getting into the fixture. Far reaching, that a connection came loose in the other box that feeds this one. Not so likely since I doubt that box was touched when this cheap piece of crap was installed.

 

[Startingover]

I didn’t set out to buy a cheap poc, (haha) this is what the store recommended

Ok, we’ll look for a new waterproof shower light.

Question: will a new fixture likely have same wires? She can wire things if its an exact replacement of wires.

Thanks

 

[HandyAndyInNC]

For a parallel circuit, there will be only two wires. But remember, current knows now color.

 

[Oso954]

I’m not sure what you have.
The photo shows a LED module made to eliminate the screw-in bulb of a can light (recessed light). If you didn’t already have a can in the ceiling or he didn’t install one, he should not have used that.

They do make a super thin recessed LED similar to this.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Globe-Electric-Ultra-Slim-Designer-Series-4-in-White-Integrated-LED-Recessed-Kit-91246/305141096?MERCH=REC-_-visuallysimilar_1_0-_-303240034-_-305141096-_-N

While generally similar in appearance, they are different in application and installation.

 

[Startingover]

Thanks

No there was nothing in the shower ceiling before

We’ll buy whatever you recommend.

She does take super long showers. But she also installed a timer on the exhaust fan to run it 20 min then shut itself off.

 

[Jim Port]

You do not need a waterproof fixture on the ceiling. It is not in a pool. A damp rated fixture would be fine.

I would check the connections first.

I think the OP is using a led wafer disk light.

 

[Jim Port]

The issue is that moisture is getting into the light and/or the socket, or both and causing it to not make a good connection. Should have installed a water-proof fixture. There is no ground on the fixture itself and nothing to prevent moisture from getting into the fixture. Far reaching, that a connection came loose in the other box that feeds this one. Not so likely since I doubt that box was touched when this cheap piece of crap was installed.

Th e original light feeds the new wafer light. Please tell us how the original box would not have ben touched.

How do you know the fixture is not quality?

 

[chetwisner]

What does it mean when you say "Last month the shower light ONLY went out"? It would go out, as opposed to wouldn't come on?

 

[chetwisner]

Nevermind the above, the grammar cop came out in me. I find it difficult sometimes to understand what someone is trying to say when they use the adverb only incorrectly, and then I'm doubly confounded when they have emphasized the word in all caps, boldface, etc.

Still, what else would a light do when it goes bad but to "go out"?

 

[Startingover]

Since 2 lights are connected to one switch I was emphasizing ‘only’ the new one went out. Not ‘out’ the back door and out of the house, it just wouldn’t do what lights are suppose to do. Light.


Also I didn’t say it ‘went bad’ because I don’t know the moral character of this particular light.

 

[chetwisner]

Since 2 lights are connected to one switch I was emphasizing ‘only’ the new one went out. Not ‘out’ the back door and out of the house, it just wouldn’t do what lights are suppose to do. Light.


Also I didn’t say it ‘went bad’ because I don’t know the moral character of this particular light.

:vs_laugh: Thanks for going along! :biggrin2:

 

[chetwisner]

Since 2 lights are connected to one switch I was emphasizing ‘only’ the new one went out. Not ‘out’ the back door and out of the house, it just wouldn’t do what lights are suppose to do. Light.


Also I didn’t say it ‘went bad’ because I don’t know the moral character of this particular light.

OK, so what you meant to say was that only the shower light went out. :devil3:

 

[Orangeman6]

OK, so what you meant to say was that only the shower light went out. :devil3:

I’m nowhere close to being an electrician but don’t recessed lights have an automatic off feature when they get warm? OP said it comes back on.


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[Startingover]

This light was put in 3 yrs ago.

Its been out several days. Last night she left the switch turned on overnight so the original ceiling light was on all night. This morning the shower light had mysteriously come on also.

Jim Port: She’ll check the connection this weekend when she has free time.

 

[Startingover]

Chet, I lived in Indiana awhile so I’m glad you understand me.

 

[Nickd83]

You said originally it was on a dimmer, is this new light dimmable? Are they listed to work together? That could also be an issue.

 

[Startingover]

Nick, daughter installed the dimmer about 2 yrs ago. Its a newer dimmer that slides up and down. (Unlike the old round dimmer in my house)

Can’t answer your question. HD still had a big area in the light department with her type of shower lights. Would the box say whether its compatible with a dimmer?

Would this problem suddenly show up after a couple of years?

No idea about the fixture on ceiling which I assume is original to 30 yo house.

Electricity is interesting.

 

[Nickd83]

The light should state somewhere on it if it is dimmable. As for the switch itself, if its newer, there should be an adjustment pot/screw on it for adjusting the output voltage. The ones I have in my home had that, and it sounds like the ones she has. She should be able to open the covers and get the model numbers of each device and check the manufacturer's websites both for comparability and instructions.

It's possible she didn't notice it until she dimmed the lights one day, I have a chandelier that was working great, until one day my kids were playing with the switches and I noticed it was acting strange and had to adjust it, wasn't 3 years, but nonetheless.

 

[ChuckTin]

Speaking from recent (this year) experience even if the light states it's dimmable it's still a crap shoot.
And the ones I installed, even on a straight, no-dimmer, circuit blink.
Further I've had to replace x-thousand hour LEDs already (2 years installed!).
I think it's - the Chinese circuitry and diodes are fragile and they are made for 50 cycle power not for the (something like, approximately, maybe, could be) 60 cycle here in USofA.
Best practice? Get an electrician to supply and install. An experienced one will know what works and what's junque .

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