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No plumbing experience on my end. Would this be an easy fix or would I need to hire out?








I'm thinking yes.Should I hire out for this?
Forgive my ignorance, what kind of work would need to be done on the subfloor? Is the problem because half of the closet flange doesn't have a tight fit or something?The plumbing aspect wouldn't be that difficult - it's the subfloor that's going to need some work. It looks to me like half of the closet flange isn't even supported by the subfloor. If you fix the plumbing without addressing the floor, you'll just end up with the same problem down the road.
haha, I have no idea what I'm looking at either. At first glance I thought the leak was because of the loose collar but after I saw these photos I realized the leak was coming from above that. There doesn't seem to be much water damage around the collar flange or the subfloor but everything under it looks pretty nasty.I'm not sure what I'm seeing. I don't understand what appears to be a collar below the flange. Either the wax seal has been leaking a very long time or there is something awry about that collar-looking thing. It appears the junctures are lapping incorrectly but again, not sure what I'm seeing.![]()
Good catch HRG. I'll re-inspect tomorrow and take some new pictures for you guys. I can see the drain you're talking about on the right side as well as the vertical pipe. There's no other upper level so I think it is a vent only.There appears to be a lot more going on than just a leak at that toilet. There's white stuff extending out to the right in photo-2 and there appears to be a second drain pipe off to the right side of that photo. Also in photos 5, 6 and 7 the white stuff appears to be coming down where the drain pipe goes upward.
Is that vertical pipe going to a vent only, or are there other things on an upper level draining down through that pipe?
Have you had clogging problems in your waste drain pipes?
HRG
I've been here over 15 years. (15 long neglected years)Okay let's backup.
How long have you been there?
Is it leaking now?
Who replaced the subfloor around the toilet flange and when?![]()
Just as a basis for comparison:I've ran into a few clogging problems. Nothing major. Just minor issues like flushing too much toilet paper and other misc. toilet clogs. I cannot for the likes of me, remember whether or not there was an actual water flood. I'd like to think that there was a minor flood that was cleaned up asap, but my memory is just too hazy.
I would never even begin to make that assumption without knowing what kind of toilet he has first. Heck, if you put enough toilet paper in any toilet it will clog.So for your toilet to clog because of too much toilet paper sounds like your drain is not properly designed
You have taken my statement completely out of context. That entire post that I made that you took that excerpt from, dealt with clogging due to drain pipes and not with clogging caused by the toilet. I even said: ***** "We have had several toilet clogs because of objects in the toilet bowl's built-in trap but those were not related to the drain pipes." *****Homerepairguy said:![]()
So for your toilet to clog because of too much toilet paper sounds like your drain is not properly designed
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I would never even begin to make that assumption without knowing what kind of toilet he has first. Heck, if you put enough toilet paper in any toilet it will clog.
The design of the drain looks fine to me, and exactly how we do it out here, but the only thing I can't see is how much grade is on the pipe. Even still with little to no grade on a 3" line between a toilet and it's vent, the velocity that close to the toilet is going to flush out any solid material, and all you're going to be left with is a little water.
Again, the closet flange looks to be your culprit.
The toilet does not move at all. I'll try the 5 gallon bucket test to see how much leaks. By this I assume you mean flush the toilet while pouring down the water correct?You need to play detective- The first thing I'd do is have someone pour a 5 gal. bucket of water down the toilet as fast as it will take it. You should be watching the pipe when someone pours. This should tell you if your pipe leaks.
But I think your problem is at the flange though. When a flange is anchored properly, the tips of the screws can sometimes be seen poking through the plywood- not present in your case. Also as stated earlier, the sub floor is some distance from the flange- makes me wonder if its anchored. Does your toilet move at all?
Alan you are correct. I inspected some more today and the white stuff on the back is just spray paint.Looks more like spray paint on that toilet vent to me, than waste water residue.
I'm with whoever said closet flange. That thing should be supported in the back where there is no subfloor. Any movement at all starts to create a small gap, and water turns a small gap into a medium gap, until it gets worse and worse. It doesn't look like you have tons of damage at this point, so it's not like gallons of water each time. I bet part of the problem could have even been the plunger you used to fix the clog. If the seal was already broken, the plunger can force more water out.
1 Pull toilet
2 cut waste line
3 repair subfloor
4 replace waste line and fittings with exactly what you cut out.
5 reset toilet
6 poop in peace.
My toilet is pretty weak. I am not surprised that it clogs as much as it does. My family member who uses that bathroom is very wasteful of toilet paper, I mean.... very wasteful.I would never even begin to make that assumption without knowing what kind of toilet he has first. Heck, if you put enough toilet paper in any toilet it will clog.
The design of the drain looks fine to me, and exactly how we do it out here, but the only thing I can't see is how much grade is on the pipe. Even still with little to no grade on a 3" line between a toilet and it's vent, the velocity that close to the toilet is going to flush out any solid material, and all you're going to be left with is a little water.
Again, the closet flange looks to be your culprit.
It has not been addressed. I'm afraid I also do not know how it's constructed. My guess is recessed.AngryKorean-- Don't remember if this has been addressed- Do you know how your floor is constructed? Does the WC flange sit flush or above the flooring or is it recessed? If its recessed to low then your bowl wax is bound to fail.
Sure, I could try to take off the toilet to snap some pics. I've never done it before. Do I just shut off the valve, flush the water, drain the rest of the water and then unbolt the screws holding the toilet down? Is there any more than that?I hate to say it, but guessing doesn't really do us much good. . . Is there any chance to pull the toilet and look at the flange? Who knows it might even be one of those P.O.S. with metal ring that has rusted out . . . .