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I have painted an interior wall with a big box store brand Top of their line with one coat no primer needed. This wall had a lighter Paint on it already and in need of a new paint job.

I have shadows!!! I have now finished 2 full coats and shadows look worse. Please any help or suggestions. Tks, Cg
 

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We have no pictures. no idea what color it was or what color or even what brand you where where using.
#1, There's no such thing as primer and paint in one.
It's a gimick for new DIY's trying to save a step and almost never works.
 

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If you were OUTDOORS....painting non-vinyl siding that had been powerwashed, I would tell you that grain shadow is pretty normal. But indoors??? So, about primers, the most robust are meant to 1) provide a surface for the finish paint to grip and 2) seal in any things that might bleed through, e.g. Water stains, rust, whatever. And as Joe said, for MY money, anything that claims to both paint and prime are crap.....but they will make the do it yourself er happy.....if they work. So I am NOT a professional painter...but if I put ONE coat on a wall.....and see dark and light areas, I am backing up and using a primer over everything to eplevel out the playing field. So, required war story, in. My sons house which had blue board and plaster skim coat, prior owner moved an outlet in the bath and just put a patch with joint compound n the left over space....and then put wallpaper over it....which we didn't see upon inspection ....or three years later....but now four years later, we can see the patch....right through the dark blue vinyl wallpaper...coming thorough as an area that was not sealed over. Ron
 

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If you would have done any sort of reading/searching on here, you COULD have avoided this disaster altogether, although Chris is hinting that the "shadows" could be something else. Gonna need a pic to better direct you at this point so hold off on buying and applying more paint until we can see what you're seeing. In the end, it could be something as simple as changing the lighting in the room.

Also, "shadows" could be an application error such as using the wrong nap on your roller sleeve, pushing down too hard on a cheap roller, coating the wall with a different sheen than what's already on there, not reloading the roller enough, i.e., trying to squeeze out every last drop of paint before reloading..........etc, and so on.
 

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You guys are being way too nice to the paint manufacturers! Paint and primer in one is a bold faced LIE! For one thing, they never tell anybody that that one coat, and sometimes even two coats, is going to look like crap when it's dry. It covers though, and to most diy'ers that's what they are looking for. But that doesn't mean the finish isn't going to be blotchy or uneven. It is a lie, plain and simple.
 

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I thought the whole point of primer was an inexpensive coat to help coverage. I was not aware that primer had special agents in it that covered better then paint. So what I think I'm being told now is that's primer actually covers better then two coats of paint?
 

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Maybe I read the original post wrong, but I don't think OP meant that he used paint and primer in one. I think he was just saying the wall didn't seem to need primer. Not saying that is the case, just saying how I interpreted the post. Did i misinterpret? Was this paint and primer in one?
 

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I thought the whole point of primer was an inexpensive coat to help coverage. I was not aware that primer had special agents in it that covered better then paint. So what I think I'm being told now is that's primer actually covers better then two coats of paint?


No, primer doesn't generally cover better than paint. It's usually the other way around.

I'm going to guess what you mean by shadows is just a lack of coverage (hide).
If that's the case, just put another coat on and maybe try for a thicker coat.
 

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I tried photos Paint is dark and it's a hallway so it won't come out.


We're still guessing blind here, but another issue that can come up in hallways, specifically if there is a light source at one end, is flashing. Sheen differentials in the film, that could be described as "shadows" in dim light I suppose. It's caused mostly by pour rolling technique.

I don't think you have said what sheen your using.
 

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Maybe I read the original post wrong, but I don't think OP meant that he used paint and primer in one. I think he was just saying the wall didn't seem to need primer. Not saying that is the case, just saying how I interpreted the post. Did i misinterpret? Was this paint and primer in one?
Op stated that it was a box store top of the line paint. That would be a paint and primer product regardless if he intended to use it that way. The fact that it was worse on the second coat then the first is an indication that the resins of the paint are soaking through what ever paint is already there and leaving an uneven coat due to all of the flatteners being distributed unevenly on the surface. I've seen this happen several thousand times in the last 30 years. Diy'ers and cheap painters have it happen all the time. It would have been a lot cheaper and a lot quicker to just prime it and get over the whole instant gratification thing those box stores are taking advantage of. Making millions doing it too.
 

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I think we're being trolled here. OP said he was painting a LIGHTER color over a (assuming here) darker color which presents problems of its own. Add in poor paint selection and a poor application process and we get SHADOWS. Cheap paint like that can't/won't cover a dark color in 10 coats. Case closed.
 
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