[kayakguy]

I want to add a 50A GFCI Hot Tub (outdoor installation) circuit, but my 200 A Service panel has no empty breaker slots. What are my options? I have a 3 year old house with underground service.

 

[jbfan]

Take a pictur of the location of the panel, and we can give better directions.
You will have to add a subpanel from the main panel by removing 2 circuits and installing a breaker, feed the new sub panel, the connect the 2 removed ciruits to the new panel.

 

[COLDIRON]

possible

Possible to install mini breakers to free up room for 50 amp breaker.

 

[wirenut1110]

Possible to install mini breakers to free up room for 50 amp breaker.

Yep, and if you happen to have a panel that makes them(like Square D), you could get a 15/15/250 breaker or a 20/20/250 and put your GFI outside since you'll need a disconnect anyway.

 

[COLDIRON]

250 amp breaker

yep, and if you happen to have a panel that makes them(like square d), you could get a 15/15/250 breaker or a 20/20/250 and put your gfi outside since you'll need a disconnect anyway.

Question to wirenut, are you being scarcastic???????????????????????

 

[kayakguy]

Additional info on 200 A panel

More info: Here are pictures. I also have a swimming pool (2 pump motors and heat pump) that appear to be on a subpanel, but I am not sure which breaker in the master panel they are fed from.

 

[wirenut1110]

Question to wirenut, are you being scarcastic???????????????????????

I'm not sure what you mean? I was saying that Square D makes "quads" that would be 2 single pole 15, or 20's and a double pole 50. Just so happens the OP has a homeline panel.

http://ecatalog.squared.com/fulldetail.cfm?partnumber=HOMT1515250

PS. It looks like you may have a straight 30 rather than a 30/40 panel. I dunno. If it's a straight 30, no tandems or quads in there.

 

[COLDIRON]

Sorry

I'm not sure what you mean? I was saying that Square D makes "quads" that would be 2 single pole 15, or 20's and a double pole 50. Just so happens the OP has a homeline panel.

http://ecatalog.squared.com/fulldetail.cfm?partnumber=HOMT1515250

PS. It looks like you may have a straight 30 rather than a 30/40 panel. I dunno. If it's a straight 30, no tandems or quads in there.

You threw me with the 250 amp reference and the 200 amp panel.

 

[220/221]

Remove four 15 amp circuit breakers.

Install two 15 amp tandem breakers (like the one on the left side, a couple/few up from the bottom) and hook the four 15 amp circuits there.

This will leave you with two full spaces for your 2 pole 50 amp spa breaker.

 

[kayakguy]

Thanks

Thanks guys. 220/221 you got it. I wasn't thinking and should have gone there, because that looks like what the pool guy did. I am calling a pro to do the work and will make sure of the total load margins, but I really wanted wanted to make sure of what I was looking at before I dove in. Thanks again.

 

[thefamouscbc]

You can use what they call tandems or piggyback breakers on some of the 15amp and 20amp circuits. I would do it with circuits that do not have a lot of load on them. Like dining room plugs, living room plugs, or a light lighting circuit.


My bad 220/221, I didn't read your post before I posted. You are exactly correct though.