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I decided to redo my bathroom. I started with pulling off the wallpaper and painting. It's already gone wrong. The front face of the drywall is coming off with the wallpaper. I don't know what to do now. I'm discouraged and I'm barely an hour into this renovation. HELP
 

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How are you trying to get it off?
If no one primed the wall before installing the wall paper this can happen.
Might want to rent a steamer.
 

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I'm using wall paper remover. Most the paper actually come off easily without any remover. This one particular wall though is like they just called it a day.
 

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How long did you let it soak in?
You can not rush it.
 

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I don't know if anyone has said- It is very important to remove as much paste as you can then seal that and any places of ripped sheetrock paper.
There are 2 products that do this very well, A thin clear penetrating waterbaase called Gardz, and oil sealers like Cover Stain. I prefer Gardz- easier and less stinky.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I was up so late last night removing paper that decided to clean the walls and patch up blemishes this morning. So I have a paint and primer combo but I have to seal before I paint?
 

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If you mud over torn sheetrock paper it will bubble and you will need to cut it out. That is exactly why you use Gardz first.
If you mud or paint over residue paste it will reactivate and make ugly blemishes, discoloring paint. Sometimes even years later.
 

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ttwin, the face paper coming off and leaving the backing and paste on the wall is normal and actually makes the job easier because the backing paper will soak up the remover solution.

I've always applied the remover with a pump-up garden sprayer using very hot water. Keep applying it until you get run-off. Use a wallpaper shaver knife to remove the backing and to scrape the wall.

Wash the wall with the remover solution and then rinse with clear water. I also would recommend Gardz primer. It will help from damaging any paint by protecting it from starch, whick will cquse flaking and peeling.
 

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ttwin, the face paper coming off and leaving the backing and paste on the wall is normal and actually makes the job easier because the backing paper will soak up the remover solution.

I've always applied the remover with a pump-up garden sprayer using very hot water. Keep applying it until you get run-off. Use a wallpaper shaver knife to remove the backing and to scrape the wall.

Wash the wall with the remover solution and then rinse with clear water. I also would recommend Gardz primer. It will help from damaging any paint by protecting it from starch, whick will cquse flaking and peeling.
Thanks for the advice. So it's taken me some trail and error with this. First I was peeling the backing off by using my fingernail to lift a corner and pulling it off, let's just say I was getting nowhere. Then I tried wetting it and peeling but I was taking the drywall paper face off with it, luckily only in small easy to fix patches. I finally settled on using a spray bottle of hot water to wet the paper and allowing it to sit but taking my time to carefully peel the paper off using a slow and gently pull. Its working much better than my previous techniques but tedious because of the distance in the backing i created by doing it my first way. I will modify this and use a wallpaper scrapper. My question is does soaking the drywall constantly like you suggested damage it or do you just give it some time to dry off before you wash the walls?
 

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Although I have seen wallcovering pasted directly to the drywall at a large htel, almost all installer use an undercoater (Usually oil-base enamel undercoat0 to seal the wall prior to hanging. Not only does it protect the wall, it makes the wallcovering slide easier on installation. So, your wall should be protected against getting wet.

I have always used DIF brand Wallpaper Remover Solution. It is a concentrate, so 1-quart will suffice for an average size room. Put the HOT water in the sprayer first, then add th DIF. Otherwise it bubbles up like dish detergent. It helps deactivate the paste, making it a better choice than plain water.
 

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Mr. Paint said:
Although I have seen wallcovering pasted directly to the drywall at a large htel, almost all installer use an undercoater (Usually oil-base enamel undercoat0 to seal the wall prior to hanging. Not only does it protect the wall, it makes the wallcovering slide easier on installation. So, your wall should be protected against getting wet.

I have always used DIF brand Wallpaper Remover Solution. It is a concentrate, so 1-quart will suffice for an average size room. Put the HOT water in the sprayer first, then add th DIF. Otherwise it bubbles up like dish detergent. It helps deactivate the paste, making it a better choice than plain water.
Thanks
 
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