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I was installing a new ceiling fan to replace an old one. from the box in ceiling there were 2 black hot wires twisted together, 1 white neutral, and 1 black w/white stripe. From the new fan there is a black, white, 2green grounds, and a black w/white stripe.
Initial wiring i did was all solid blacks + the black w/ white stripe from fan to the blacks on ceiling, put white to white, and then put my green grounds to the black w/white stripe from box since it was only wire left.... this caused the fan to "hum" when switch was on, tried on/off a few times then breaker popped in basement.
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Tried a bunch of things the second time.... now realizing the grounds should have just went to a screw in the box not the black/white from house. I believe now it was too late. The black/white from the house is a constant hot wire, allowing the ceiling fan to run regardless of the light switch being on/off. (only 1 switch in room). My wife said she held the breaker over so because it kept tripping with the original wire setup, so i believe i now have a short somewhere. I now have no power to either upstairs bedroom. Checked power at the breaker w/ test light and there is power...
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Dont know what to do next... how to i figure out where the power stops, its coming out of the main panel and does not make it all the way to my ceiling boxes anymore on the second floor....
 

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Shorting out the switch leg (black w/white stripe) could have blown the switch. I would first check the switch to see if it actually turns off, if it doesn't replace the switch.

Then I would check the splice of the two blacks up at the fan box to make sure they are still spliced together.

Other than that...I would think you blew a splice SOMEWHERE in the house.
 

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I take it the new fan has also a light kit with it.
How is this setup controlled. Do you have one single pole switch on the wall that controls both fan and light or do you have 2 separate single pole switches where one controls the light on the fan and one switch controls the fan motor?
 

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The fan is fan/light together. Controlled by single wall switch... The other bedroom across the hall has a single switch, fan/light combo. The light is controlled by the switch and the fan is controlled by the pull chain. The fan will run regardless of wall switch being on/off.

This makes me think the black/white wire from the house is a constant hot wire not controlled by switch. Initially when putting that with the black hot wires and then flipping the switch i think back-fed my breaker causing the trip, then when my wife held the breaker on when it wanted to trip i believe caused something to burnout somewhere....
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bad photo but the neutral whites are not in the same nut as the grounds... i had to extend a wire from box to my neutrals and just used a white wire FYI
 

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Sounds to me that he has power on the blacks, and the black w/white stripe...I think he is going to find that the switch went bad when he shorted out the switch leg (black w/white stripe).
 

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cant check wires now because there is no power going to the ceiling box any more... something burnt out an i need to know how to find it and where to look. there is power at the breaker
 

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WHY IS THE WHITE TIED TO THE FAN'S MOUNTING BRACKET?!

Did you replace the box to a fan rated box?
 

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yes fan box was there prior, there was a old fan there, its screwed into ceiling joust... and the white tied to the mounting bracket is not going to neutral... the grounds were not long enough so used a wire to just extend them... it happened to be white
 

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yes fan box was there prior, there was a old fan there, its screwed into ceiling joust
Doubt it, just because a fan was there before, doesn't mean the box is fan rated.
 

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I think you need to start with taking down the fan and bracket, and take a picture of all the wires in the box.

To me, in the picture shown, it looks like the two wires tied together (and not wirenutted) should be the neutral.
 

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The two old ones tied together w/o nut are definitely hot... my right arm could tell u that... gave me a good zap.... ill take it apart and get a picture though... the issue currently isnt wiring the fan... its there is no power anywhere to upstairs ceiling boxes in either bedroom
 

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Check the switch, the splices behind the switch, and the splices at the fan box.

If those are all good, you are going to be looking for a needle in a haystack.
 
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