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So this may sound like a stupid question, but when do you install the door? Before or after sheetrock? I am not sure how it all fits in there, so I figured once the sheetrock is up, I am pretty much stuck with what I can work with. Any pointers?
 

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The top track of the pocket door and the actual "pocket" are one side of the pocket door structure. The length of the jamb piece is affixed to the end of the top track, completing the entire framework. This frame of the pocket door is attached at the rear and the outside of the jamb piece to the studs of an abbreviated wall section, thus becoming part of the wall. Everything is squared up and the front opening of the pocket is anchored to the floor by means of the holes in that thin metal plate.

The inch to an inch and a quarter of the jamb piece sticking above the side rails of the top track are sawn off to make flush corners that you drywall around. (No need to cut notches around those little pieces as it would at first appear.)

Hang drywall right onto the horizontal strips of the pocket door framework. But be VERY certain NOT to use screws that will, in any way, penetrate those wood strips. They WILL scratch your door! The drywall butts to the top wood of the track piece, and just to the edge of the pocket framework; it does not overlap it.

Then, you just follow the directions to hang the door on the track, and just trim everything out to your liking.

HINT: There is just enough room to fit the door into the opening and to be able to hang it up on the track BEFORE you install the trim. The installed trim encloses the door to make it impossible to remove it or for the back edge of the door to be seen. Yes, you can get the door off later, if necessary, by first removing the trim.

The steps:

1.- Assemble the frame
2.- Build the wall to fit the frame into
3.- Install the frame
4.- Drywall the whole thing (excluding the door opening)
5.- Hang the door
6.- Install the trim (this can vary in type, size, and design)
7.- Run casing around the two ends and the top of the framework

The trim and the casing will hide the rough cut edges of the drywall.
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Of course, because there are many different manufacturers of pocket door frames, some of these instructions may vary slightly. But the construction concept remains the same.
 

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OK, here it is. (Man! I am getting entirely too easy!) :)

The only thing not shown on this wall is that it should have doubled studs at both ends the pocket frame attaches to. It looked too cluttered to draw it that way on such a small picture. (Any bigger, and the forum limits won't accept it.)
 

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One more caution, make sure the trim nails used for the trim are not too long as to nail into the door. That is good advice on the length of the sheet rock screws also.
 

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thanks!

Thanks, WillieT! But, I'm not sure what the blue stuff is. I got that the red is the framework of the wall. Is the blue the door? Anyway, I found some pictures on the Johnson Hardware website and I think I can get it from that. (It's nice to know that someone with experience is "easy" and will help out!):wink:
 

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Thanks, WillieT! But, I'm not sure what the blue stuff is. I got that the red is the framework of the wall. Is the blue the door? Anyway, I found some pictures on the Johnson Hardware website and I think I can get it from that. (It's nice to know that someone with experience is "easy" and will help out!):wink:
Yes, the blue is the completed pocket door frame. These little pictures are much easier to figure out if you use the <PAGE> feature in the upper right end of your computer's toolbar, and "ZOOM" the size up to 200%.
 

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nice drawings, but the Johnson's kit comes with vertical steel-wrapped studs.

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Thanks for the Johnson link! It was incredibly helpful, although I can't get the video to download. I'll order from them and hope they'll send me the video. I also appreciate WillieT's pictures.
 

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I recently installed a Johnson pocket door. It was not complicated and I am very satisfied with the results. Just follow the instructions. I would also recommend paying the extra money and using a solid door- the hardware that comes with the Johnson kit will mount more securely.
 
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