[JasonofNJ]

My plumber drilled a hole through a header in our master bath to route some plumbing. When I saw it, I immediately became concerned about the integrity of the beam, particularly since that's where a freestanding tub is going.

Can anyone chime in as to whether this is okay?

Thanks

 

[bob22]

I see no way that this is ok. He should pay for the repair (I would't pay him if you owe him any money).

 

[joecaption]

#1, That's not a hole, it's a notch.
#2, Hard to figure out exactly what where looking at, is that picture right side up in the picture?
As a general rule to meet code it should have been a hole not a notch, not within 2' of the end, and the hole should be no more then 1/3rd the size of the board.
The reason notching is not allowed is where that 90% corner is it causes a weak point where it will crack.

 

[JasonofNJ]

#1, That's not a hole, it's a notch.
#2, Hard to figure out exactly what where looking at, is that picture right side up in the picture?
As a general rule to meet code it should have been a hole not a notch, not within 2' of the end, and the hole should be no more then 1/3rd the size of the board.
The reason notching is not allowed is where that 90% corner is it causes a weak point where it will crack.

Sorry, I flipped the pic so it's right side up.

I guess there's two concerns, one being the notch, but the other is the hole to the side of the notch where the measuring tape is.

I wasn't actually as concerned about the notch in the joist. But maybe I should be?

 

[dj3]

Jason,
You have a serious framing deficiency on your hands.

 

[JasonofNJ]

Any clarification would be great since I know very little of all this.

After some further research though, it appears as though the hole I was concerned about isn't actually an issue.

The real issue as pointed out is the notch. That header doesn't look to be too long so I think I'll have to look in to replacing it then having a hole not much bigger than the diameter of the drain drilled through.

Thoughts?

 

[TheEplumber]

It looks to me like the header length is 16". What is it supporting?

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[JasonofNJ]

I snapped a photo from just behind the joist where the black drain goes in, looks like the header is maybe 36" total. So my guess is that it only supports the flooring there, which was/will be the tub.

 

[3onthetree]

Eyeing the hole it looks a bit big. The notch is unacceptable. Here you go.

 

[JasonofNJ]

Thanks all.

So I'll definitely be replacing that header and definitely not using that plumber.

 

[HotRodx10]

Given the position of the notch so close to the end of joist/beam, it may not be a problem, unless it's supporting a big concentrated load.


The hole in the header may be a little big, but assessing whether it might be a problem would require more info on the framing system

 

[udraft]

Seems plumbers do this sort of thing all the time. Hole seems O.K., notch is a problem.

 

[sixeightten]

None of that is ok. Looks like the hole is drilled through a 2 ply or 3 ply. The notch is a complete disaster. That beam will need replaced now. Looks like it hangs mid span on the carrier beam also.

 

[huesmann]

Looks like the plumber didn't want to have to core through two pieces of lumber so he just notched it.