[AFScreenRepair]

My Lanai is about 170sqft, and I want to put some kind of pavers to spruce it up some. It has about a 2-3" drop from the sliding glass door to the inside, so I have some room to add height. It has a painted concrete base. Can I just put the pavers right on top of the concrete and on the borders add some kind of adhesive? or do I need to use a thin set on everything? I'm decently handy, I'm not the best with a lot of terminology though, the easier to understand the better, I appreciate all ideas.

 

[de-nagorg]

Are the borders a raised concrete short wall, or how is the borders constructed. A picture works great in this situation.

I would put down a little sand to install the pavers just like if it was on dirt, but leave out the gravel, you already have a solid base.

Use the sand to get the pavers even with the door, and if the borders are raised, get a wet saw and cut the edge pavers to fit the space all around.

then sweep in the polymeric sand recommended to lock it all together.


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[AFScreenRepair]

Here's my back porch, please pardon the mess, I'm currently building a shed on the other side. These pavers are my next project.
If I put down the sand I'm assuming I don't need to worry about the paint on the concrete?

Also will the sand lock all the pavers in place, even around the edge?

I plan on removing the screens and putting in new aluminum on top of the pavers.

Also, should I bring the pavers to the edge of the concrete or go past it an inch or two?

 

[de-nagorg]

On the edges with no raised edging, use PL ADHESIVE to stick some pavers down, then you have a raised edge to build to.


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[AFScreenRepair]

Can you send me a link to this adhesive you're referring to?

Should I still put down the sand under the pavers?

 

[de-nagorg]

Go to homedepot.com

Search for PL Premium

You will find one brand, there are several brands that all do the same thing.

sand under the loose pavers only. Sand under the edgers and they will not adhere.

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[AFScreenRepair]

so first I adhere all the pavers around the parameter with the PL then lay sand and put in the rest of the pavers?

 

[de-nagorg]

You will need to "DO THE MATH" to know where exactly to place the edgers ,and how many pavers to buy, but


Many manufacturers make specific edgers for edging purposes.
Yes that is the plan.

Also need to figure how high to fill in the sand and keep it screeded level.
You will want to raise your edgers up to the same height before adhering them or there will be a trip hazard at that point, Don't want that.


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[AFScreenRepair]

So this must be a very thin layer of sand, unless the PL is going to raise the pavers on the border some. I'm assuming the PL will flatten out when I put the paver on it like any other adhesive.

Is there another way to do it where you put sand throughout and put cement under the pavers on the border?

 

[de-nagorg]

Use a thin veneer brick under your edgers to raise them up to the height needed to be level with your paver field.

Or a PT 2X4 , but that will decay someday, just not soon.

Only you know how high that you would like your pavers,

subtract the thickness of your paver to find how much sand and how thick you need the veneer blocking under the edgers.


A good wet saw will be handy to rent/buy to be able to cut everything to fit perfectly within your lanai floor.

You asked earlier about the old paint, ignore the paint, it is not important.



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[AFScreenRepair]

I understand what you're saying, what I don't understand is the process. I just need a step by step easiest, cheapest, but still the right way to do this. I appreciate you trying to help me but the process is what I'm asking for help on.

 

[de-nagorg]

Measure your lanai, get the dimensions (length, width, height that you want the pavers to go up to).

Pick a style of paver, divide the paver dimensions into the lanai dimensions, to see if they will come out close to a full number of pavers in both width and length.

Pick an alternate paver style or two, do the math.

Then pick the one that you think is the least amount of work to make fit.

You will probably be cutting some of them to get a near perfect fit, so get a wet saw (buy / rent),

now figure the height to see how much sand you will need to raise them to the desired level.

This gives you the height that you will need to raise the edging pavers, in the egress points. you cut risers from either , regular brick, or some extra pavers that you buy to make into the risers. You might be able to use cut tiles if the raised is just a little. Use the saw to cut these risers, Adhere the risers with PL adhesive, in the exact line that you have chosen to get the field without having to cut many pavers to fit, then adhere the egress pavers to the risers on top, remember to allow space for the adhesive in the cuts to bring the egress edging to the desired height.

After the adhesives cure, start in the corner next to the home, laying the pavers in your chosen pattern, working across and back toward the outside corner.

remember to screed the sand out to the figured depth, tread lightly , do not leave any footprints or divots in the sand, can be done, but ain't easy.

When you get close to the outside you probably will need to cut some pavers to fit close (not TIGHT) because you need a very little room for the polymeric sand.
Check that all field pavers are level with it's neighbors, if not use a rubber hammer to gently persuade it to settle in, or pull it up to add a little sand underneath.
Spread this polymeric out and sweep back and forth both ways to get it to fall into the tiny spaces between the pavers.

Then clean up any extra polymeric.

and sprinkle water slightly over the surface to set the pavers.


Let dry and marvel at your creation.

You will have a step down at the egress points to the outside, so plan to do something about this trip hazard.


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