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Hi guys,

I can't believe there is a forum for DIY stuff and I am SO thankful! First of all thank you for taking the time to help me any way you can. Here's my dilemma, I quickly moved to a small town where the only available house for rent seems like the last upgrades were done in the early 70s. We're talking two pronged outlets, horrific wallpaper, the list goes on and on. To the point - the washer and dryer do not work and the landlord refuses to buy a new set. I've come to live with her being unhelpful and am ready to have my own set but I need to know if the house can support the system I'm looking at. I took a picture of the fuse box and the dryer box. They are attached and here is the link to the washer/dryer I would l like.

drive.google.com/open?id=0B8HHwjuNYi9JcUxGcjBsa0xOckI1bkFJLVJ4UWo0RjJfQlNF

drive.google.com/open?id=0B8HHwjuNYi9JWXFCY1A3MGxoZmFYaG0tcUt2NmNBMEEtVGtF

sears.com/kenmore-4.3-cu-ft-front-load-steam-washer/p-026CO77984812B?prdNo=13&blockNo=13&blockType=G13

THANK YOU!!
 

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We need to know about the main panel ?
what size panel
what size main breaker
Any spaces left in panel
what is already at the washer / dryer position ?
amp wise and 120 or 240v
does the new appliances state power use ?
 

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Still no photos showing. If there is a 240 vAC 3 wire outlet for the dryer, you need a 3 wire cord. If the dryer and washer both use just 120 vAC. You need a MWBC (Multi-Wire Branch Circuit) for 2 20 amp circuits. You would share the Neutral and Ground between the two. One outlet would use the Red wire hot, the other outlet would use the Black wire for hot.

If all that you have is a Hot and a Neutral. You can legally get by with just a GFCI outlet. It needs to be marked "No Ground". If you want a grounded branch for both appliances if 120. You would need to pull all new 12/3 from the panel to the location for the outlet.

If you are not comfortable with this. Then it is fine to pick up the phone book and call an electrician. There are some Handymen/women who are licensed Electricians & Plumbers. But you need to ask them for that information before they start any work for you. Otherwise if they mess something up. You are on the hook for it if the city questions who did the work.

If you want something to help you understand the wiring. Go pick up a copy of Black & Decker's "The Complete Guide to Home Wiring". It has all of the most common wiring diagrams, a DVD with a copy of the latest NEC and also some videos. You will find that it will get a lot of use when you are trying to figure out how you want something wired.
 

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Be very careful with any alterations you make to a rental unit. The landlord may hold you liable for any damages later. He may also with hold your security deposit when you move.

If he has stated that it's "OK" to make changes, make sure it's in writing.
Then call a local electrician.
 

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Still no photos showing. If there is a 240 vAC 3 wire outlet for the dryer, you need a 3 wire cord. If the dryer and washer both use just 120 vAC. You need a MWBC (Multi-Wire Branch Circuit) for 2 20 amp circuits. You would share the Neutral and Ground between the two. One outlet would use the Red wire hot, the other outlet would use the Black wire for hot.
Wrong Greg, a MWBC is not needed as both can share the same 20 amp 120 volt circuit.

If all that you have is a Hot and a Neutral. You can legally get by with just a GFCI outlet. It needs to be marked "No Ground".
Wrong again Salty. The NEC requires a washing machine to be used on a grounded circuit per 250.114.

If you want a grounded branch for both appliances if 120. You would need to pull all new 12/3 from the panel to the location for the outlet.
Wrong again for the hat trick or should I say Strike 3, you're out?, 12-3 is not needed as a single circuit can be used.
 
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