New Tankless Water Heater

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nhoj

Discussion Starter · Dec 10, 2012 (Edited)

I have brought a New Tankless Water Heater (Richmond) and would like to know how it rates with the rest of them?

Who makes the best tankless water heater?

Which one same the most energy Natural Gas or Electric?

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md2lgyk

· #2 · Dec 11, 2012

If you're already purchased the unit, why are you now asking how it rates?? A bit late, don't you think? But to answer your question, I've never heard of that brand. The most often recommended brand around here is Rinnai. And gas units are more efficient than electric. Many folks are down on tankless, but we love ours.

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jagans

· #3 · Dec 11, 2012

Huh?????

I agree with the other poster here. You have to figure your flow rate, and the temperature rise/ flow rate you want, then buy the one that fills your requirements. What is the point of buying, then asking???:huh:

ddawg16

· #4 · Dec 11, 2012

If you 'had' a gas water heater and went to an electric.....you took a step back on the energy costs....if you already had electric....then it's more or less a wash.....

I was considering a tankless for my 2-story addition....but I already have gas.....so a gas tankless unit for me would have had about a 15-20 year payback....considering that my gas water heater has a 12 year warranty, costs about half of a tankless....and will most likely last as long as a tankless....spending the extra money was not a good value...

nhoj

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 11, 2012

Yes I should have ask before hand, but when the water heater go out you have to do something now, not tomorrow. So if you wanted to know hy I did not ask before hand that is way.

So who is the top rated tankless water herter on the market?

How does Richmond rate?

What is the most energy saving Electric or Gas?

ddawg16

· #6 · Dec 11, 2012

nhoj said:
Yes I should have ask before hand, but when the water heater go out you have to do something now, not tomorrow. So if you wanted to know hy I did not ask before hand that is way.

So who is the top rated tankless water herter on the market?

How does Richmond rate?

What is the most energy saving Electric or Gas?

I don't think it's Richmond....

Gas is 'cheaper' to run.

jagans

· #7 · Dec 11, 2012

Water Heater

I see your Point. I would Definitely go Natural Gas

I have a neighbor who is an HVAC Pro, and all his company uses is Rinnai but it is my understanding that Takagi was one of the first companies to produce them, and they are supposed to be good.

I never heard of the Richmond brand, but its a nice city with lots of history.:wink:

jagans

· #8 · Dec 11, 2012

Richmond

Looks like the Richmond line is made by Rheem, who has been around since Grant was a Corporal. Its their homeowner line. Probably decent. I wasent trying to be rude with my last post, but it is very critical that you get the right model when you buy an on demand unit, based on flow rate, and temperature rise, because you do not have a tank that fills up, and heats water up to a certain temperature for use, so that you have a reservoir of water at X temperature to use. I have well water that comes out of the ground really cold, so I decided to go with the tank type, with the intention of adding a solar batch heater on the inbound line from my well in the spring.

The best energy saver hot water heater you can buy is a pair of size 12 steel toed Brogans with which you can kick your hour long showering teenagers out on their Axes, because they are the ones that spin the meter, not the poor slob footing the bill, that learned how to shower in the military in 5 minutes or less. :thumbsup:

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ddawg16

· #9 · Dec 11, 2012

jagans said:
The best energy saver hot water heater you can buy is a pair of size 12 steel toed Brogans with which you can kick your hour long showering teenagers out on their Axes, because they are the ones that spin the meter, not the poor slob footing the bill, that learned how to shower in the military in 5 minutes or less. :thumbsup:

You must have been stationed at a country club.....I was lucky to get 2 minutes....and real lucky it was hot water...

jagans

· #10 · Dec 11, 2012

Good and Bad

That was the best of times. Forget Basic. And cold in SEA. But then again I was in the AF, so I guess we did have a country club compared to the Groundpounders, and Jarheads. Hey, it made sense to me to hide behind multi-multi million dollar aircraft, what can I say? :whistling2:

ddawg16

· #11 · Dec 11, 2012

jagans said:
That was the best of times. Forget Basic. And cold in SEA. But then again I was in the AF, so I guess we did have a country club compared to the Groundpounders, and Jarheads. Hey, it made sense to me to hide behind multi-multi million dollar aircraft, what can I say? :whistling2:

AF here as well....last assignment was the 3rd MOB (Portable AF Base)...showers were every 3 days....cold water from a tanker truck.....

To you and all the other defenders of our country.....cheers...:drink:

jagans

· #12 · Dec 11, 2012

Thanks

Thanks Dawg, Back at ya. I was with the 355 Tactical Fighter Wing in Thailand, Thuds. (F-105's) There during 66-67. I still see 750lb GP Bombs in my sleep, and that was 46 years ago.

raylo32

· #13 · Dec 11, 2012 (Edited)

Hah, 5 minute showers, 2 minute showers... both would have been considered a luxury on a submarine. Instead it was water on, get wet... water off. Soap up, water on, rinse off and done. That's what you do when you have to distill your potable water from seawater in an evaporator. But then we did have an ice cream machine.

As for the teenagers... I have some friends with 2 daughters. They are all so careful to be green and recycle... no paper towels in the house, etc. But then they let the girls take 45 minute showers off an electric water heater. D'ooohhh!

ddawg16

· #14 · Dec 11, 2012 (Edited)

jagans said:
Thanks Dawg, Back at ya. I was with the 355 Tactical Fighter Wing in Thailand, Thuds. (F-105's) There during 66-67. I still see 750lb GP Bombs in my sleep, and that was 46 years ago.

Let me guess....Utapao Air Force Base? If so....then I'm sure you know about Walking street in Pattaya.

edit.....nope....wrong direction....you were north.....but I still bet you know about Walking Street....

jagans

· #15 · Dec 11, 2012

Showers

Shoes? You had Shoes? :thumbup: Thanks for your Service.

SuperJETT

· #16 · Dec 11, 2012

raylo32 said:
Hah, 5 minute showers, 2 minute showers... both would have been considered a luxury on a submarine. Instead it was water on, get wet... water off. Soap up, water on, rinse off and done. That's what you do when you have to distill your potable water from seawater in an evaporator. But then we did have an ice cream machine.

Same here. As long as the li-br was running well, things were good, forget trying to do anything but keep the boat running if it was down and you were running on the still--if it ran at all.

md2lgyk

· #17 · Dec 12, 2012

jagans said:
The best energy saver hot water heater you can buy is a pair of size 12 steel toed Brogans with which you can kick your hour long showering teenagers out on their Axes, because they are the ones that spin the meter, not the poor slob footing the bill, that learned how to shower in the military in 5 minutes or less. :thumbsup:

You got 5 minutes to shower? What luxury! I was stationed on nuclear subs for many years. Ever heard of a "submarine shower?" You might get to stay in it for 5 minutes, but the water had better be off for at least 4 of them.

md2lgyk

· #18 · Dec 12, 2012

SuperJETT said:
Same here. As long as the li-br was running well, things were good, forget trying to do anything but keep the boat running if it was down and you were running on the still--if it ran at all.

Aah, the memories. I spent several years on SSBN-654. Can't count the hours I sat in Maneuvering and listened to the LiBr whistle in my ears. The 2K still was run only when required for PMs and was notoriously unreliable.

raylo32

· #19 · Dec 12, 2012

Just don't let that LiBr rock up! Speaking of the LiBr, questions about that might be one of the few HVAC issues that could stump BeenThere. But I don't remember much about it myself...

md2lgyk

· #20 · Dec 12, 2012 (Edited)

raylo32 said:
Just don't let that LiBr rock up! Speaking of the LiBr, questions about that might be one of the few HVAC issues that could stump BeenThere. But I don't remember much about it myself...

Me either. I was a reactor operator ET1(SS). But I qualified EWS and EOOW (allowed for enlisted then), so had to know at least a little about the LiBr. I left the Navy in 1975 so it's pretty much all forgotten now (though if there was still an S3G core 3 somewhere, I could start that sucker up). After a few years away from the military, I went into the Air National Guard and ended up retiring with 24 years total.

On a poignant note, I used to work at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, where the reactor compartments from decommissioned subs are buried. I was there when the 654's arrived.

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