New paint methods

good luck, especially with the paint zoom

Ever tried a 24" roller?

"Archaic" ha-ha-ha! We actually (from time to time) put on a little display with our archaic brushing/rolling methods against sprayers/power rollers or any other sort of new paint gadgets (paint stick). Each contestant gets a 10 x 12 room with a window, door, and trim to paint around. No one on my crew has ever lost against these new gadgets. We get the room done, are cleaned up and outta the room sometimes before the new gadgets even get started. Raced a paint stick once and the individual got ONE, yes ONE wall done while I cut in and painted an ENTIRE room. Gadgets, schmadgets, it's all marketing hallaballoo that sucks people into opening up their wallets. We call these people, SUCKERS!

spraying is good ,spraying in fact is great ,for certain jobs.:yes: and if you want to try it go for it:yes: .but did you ever wonder why people after all these years still use a brush and roller ? to quote wilford brimley. its the right thing to do:huh:.

I MIGHT be tempted to use a sprayer IF I had thousands of feet of picket fencing to paint..... but that's about it.
I have a sprayer someone gave me 20 odd years ago and it's still brand new in the box.

DM

ltd said:

spraying is good ,spraying in fact is great ,for certain jobs.:yes: and if you want to try it go for it:yes: .but did you ever wonder why people after all these years still use a brush and roller ? to quote wilford brimley. its the right thing to do:huh:.

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Learning to mask off everything you don't want sprayed is not such a fun learning experience---so some skip it I guess. My fave was buying different size trash bags for the pets to keep the spray off them.

Here fifi, here fido. If I thought I could spray fast enough I just sealed them in contractor bags for a few minutes or hours. If the project was detailed, I would cut leg and tail holes for them and make them hats. Sure most would just put them out of the room or the house but my and client pets got really snarly with exclusion from projects.

Never had major problems but occasional paw prints across poly floors and grand piano tops when brush and rolling. Superglued a soft sculpture of a lounge singer to the top of the Steinway if I couldn't get the paint off the piano and all was good.

If all of these gadgets worked, more pros would use them. Other than standard sprayers, I never, ever, seen a pro using a gadget. Trust me, if a pro could shave time off a job by using one of these "timesavers", they would be in use. But, they're not. Go ahead, waste your money, you modern man you.

I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Sometimes it is brush and roller and sometimes it is a sprayer and sometimes it is a combination of any of the three.

As far as the paint zoom goes I have not heard anything positive about it other than some funny comments. Wagner makes a similar product at a similar price base that may work well for you. the problem with these types of units are they are made cheap and break, they are not designed for professional use but from a diy stand point they may work ok for the project you are using it for and when you go to use it again it may not work at all that is why they are sometimes considered throw away units.

hell yeah. i just ordered 4 paint zooms and some 90' step ladders for this new bridge painting project. my guys will be spoiled now. i did opt for the 5 gal bucket attachment to save a few trips up and down the ladder.

mustangmike3789 said:

hell yeah. i just ordered 4 paint zooms and some 90' step ladders for this new bridge painting project. my guys will be spoiled now. i did opt for the 5 gal bucket attachment to save a few trips up and down the ladder.

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Mustangmike, now that ^^^^^^^is funny!:laughing:

300,000 comedians out of a job......

DM

I'll admit its probably not the most durable machine out there. I think the "pros" use what they have been trained with and what they feel most comfortable with. I agree a brush has its place for the finer work. Lets say you had a high-end spray machine. What would sway you towards a roller Vs sprayer then. Just curious.

kevsprojects said:

I'll admit its probably not the most durable machine out there. I think the "pros" use what they have been trained with and what they feel most comfortable with. I agree a brush has its place for the finer work. Lets say you had a high-end spray machine. What would sway you towards a roller Vs sprayer then. Just curious.

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Just depends on the situation, it is not always practical to spray. Sometimes all the proper prep that is involved to spray can makes it more suitable to cut and roll, or brush the trim. I prefer to spray when it makes the most sense but if if it costs more time I don't. Spraying in an occupied home often is not worth it.

Spray tends to go everywhere and it takes as long for me to mask off things as it does to just cut and roll. Spray is fine if things are empty and all is to be the same color and so forth.

These toy things like shown have make believe, unregulated compressors with no water filters. They spit and hiss and have no even flow when applying paint. They might be alright for fencing and outdoor furniture but not for serious interior work.

All the parts are plastic with minor exceptions so they are hard to clean and maintain. Total wastes of money in my opinion.

kevsprojects said:

I'll admit its probably not the most durable machine out there. I think the "pros" use what they have been trained with and what they feel most comfortable with. I agree a brush has its place for the finer work. Lets say you had a high-end spray machine. What would sway you towards a roller Vs sprayer then. Just curious.

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Kev, this goes toward what I was trying to get across to you, and what is the undercurrent in most other posts. Contractors work on time basis, and time is money. Any little tricks or tech advances that can increase profit, ie, reduce labor times, will be utilized. All profit seekers look for ways to become more efficient and effective. Trust me, my storage/tool boxes have been littered over the years with little gadgets that seemed like a good idea in the store, but didn't make it past the first use. Falling for gadgets is a human flaw, and marketers know that. Fortunately, other than a well known brand Power Sprayer purchase, I only fall for the low budget gadgets. Trust the feedback you've been given.
PS It has nothing to do with what they've been trained to use, there's no prejudice involved. There's just no reinventing of the wheel, or very little of it anyway.

Whoever invented the roller was one smart cookie.

Advice well received :thumbsup:

I just wondered if there really was a better way, but like everybody say's ~ why complicate a simple task. I think part of my Dilemma with the painting process is that I never really took the time to digest some "theory" on the subject, i.e. proper "nap" for the application and/or properly surfacing/preping the area before painting. I think the Paint Zoom might be a candidate for painting small/medium metal enclosures and the like. I build various kinds of electronic gadgetry as part of another interest.

I would still be interested in some methods to more efficiently paint out the ceiling/wall transitions. I just saw an add here for Accu Brush made for that purpose.

Eventually (with a little help) I'll master the painting task because around here a painter wants $600 to paint a 10x12 room that's prepped and ready to paint

Good thing I kept all my painting supplies.

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I would still be interested in some methods to more efficiently paint out the ceiling/wall transitions. I just saw an add here for Accu Brush made for that purpose.

Eventually (with a little help) I'll master the painting task because around here a painter wants $600 to paint a 10x12 room that's prepped and ready to paint

Good thing I kept all my painting supplies.

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$600 for 120 square feet of primer and two coats of color and trim doesn't sound so bad to me for a pro job but if you can DIY have at it.

You will find that with practice and a nice, quality, 2.5 - 3 inch angled sash brush you will be able to cut in between ceiling and wall and around trim with great speed. In the meantime, use tape I guess. Those Accu Brush type things fall into the category of gimmick mentioned and just cost money you don't need to spend. :yes: