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I’m going to be mounting a 50lb air hose reel on the ceiling in my garage. The mounting plate I’m using for the reel is a 20” long 2x10 that I plan on screwing on to 2 studs, with 2 screws in each stud. My question is, should I be fine using four 2.5-3” wood screws to mount the 2x10 to the ceiling even though the reel weighs 50lbs or should I be going for longer lag bolts? I’m mounting the reel to the 2x10 with 1” lag bolts, but I don’t have any longer bolts handy and I’ve got a lot of wood screws to get rid of. It also should be noted that this reel is going to be mounted directly above where my car is parked, so I’d kinda prefer if it didn’t fall through my windshield in the middle of the night. Any help appreciated!

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buy longer lag bolts and secure it so you dont get hurt when it falls, wood screws are not designed to carry that load...lag the 2 x 10s to more than 2 ceiling joists, try for 3 so you have 6 bolts holding each one..predrill the holes in the 2 x 10s for the lags..and use washers..
 

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How long do you think the lag bolts should be? 2.5"? Would put each bolt about 1" into the joist.

Edit: Thinking about it, I'd probably go with 3/8 3" lag bolts.
minimum for that weight should be at least 2 or 3 inches into the ceiling joist..you also dont want to go too big and split the wood, again you can predrill a smaller hole than the lag so the joists dont split..not only do they have to handle the weight, but yanking on the hose while working...
 

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minimum for that weight should be at least 2 or 3 inches into the ceiling joist..you also dont want to go too big and split the wood, again you can predrill a smaller hole than the lag so the joists dont split..not only do they have to handle the weight, but yanking on the hose while working...
Do you guys typically use impacts to put them on? I have a feeling my air impact would blow through the wood. I have an electric one around here somewhere. Perhaps I need to use that instead.
 

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Do you guys typically use impacts to put them on? I have a feeling my air impact would blow through the wood. I have an electric one around here somewhere. Perhaps I need to use that instead.
Ayuh,.... I'd go over-sized, like 3/8" lags, Minimum,....
1/2" might be overkill,...
maybe 3, 3/8" on each end,...

Predrill the holes as deep as possible, 3/16", maybe 1/4",.....

Yer impact is more likely to properly drive 'em in to full depth, better than racket, 'n socket,....
I've twisted the heads off 1/4", 'n 5/16" lags with a racket from the drag on the bolt,....
An impact will drive 'em full depth, much easier, with less damage,....
But I'd still go 3/8",...
Lags are generally soft junk steel,....
 

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Ayuh,.... I'd go over-sized, like 3/8" lags, Minimum,....
1/2" might be overkill,...
maybe 3, 3/8" on each end,...

Predrill the holes as deep as possible, 3/16", maybe 1/4",.....

Yer impact is more likely to properly drive 'em in to full depth, better than racket, 'n socket,....
I've twisted the heads off 1/4", 'n 5/16" lags with a racket from the drag on the bolt,....
An impact will drive 'em full depth, much easier, with less damage,....
But I'd still go 3/8",...
Lags are generally soft junk steel,....
I picked up 6 3/8" 4.5" bolts. Id rather duct tape the reel to the ceiling than use a ratchet to put lag bolts in. I guess ill just air impact them and see what happens. 6 bolts with 3" going into the joist each should be more than enough to keep this reel in place for a long, long time.
 

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Do you guys typically use impacts to put them on? I have a feeling my air impact would blow through the wood. I have an electric one around here somewhere. Perhaps I need to use that instead.
use a hand ratchet, so you dont rip out the threads in the wood, if you predrill, the lags wont be so bad putting them in, or use an air ratchet just to get them close then hand tighten..
 

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use a hand ratchet, so you dont rip out the threads in the wood, if you predrill, the lags wont be so bad putting them in, or use an air ratchet just to get them close then hand tighten..
Ill test the air ratchet before I impact. I think mine puts down like 65ft lbs which should be able to get them in there pretty good. Plus its a lot slower than the impact which gives me a little room for error.
 

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I have 2 large heavy air hose reels made by coxreels and 2 heavy commercial electric reels hung on my shop ceiling and I installed each of them the same way. These are not plastic home center reels, they are extremely heavy commercial models.

I take a piece of 3/4" plywood large enough to span two joists, about 16x28 (24" on center trusses), then cut a bevel around the perimeter just for looks. I then bolted the reel to the center of the plywood using carriage bolts, held the reel/plywood up to the ceiling and screwed it in place using 3" torx deck screws into both joists, probably 3-4 screws in each one. This is about as solid as you could ever hope for, it holds the reel very stable and the plywood reinforces softer ceiling material like drywall so it doesn't crush over time. The reels have been in place 20+ years and seen extensive use with no problem.

Having the reel mounted in the center of the plywood allows you to easily drive the screws straight in along the two edges using an impact driver or drill without interference from the reel.
 

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It appears not much research is done of the tensile and / or shear strength of fasteners before making a decision. If it weren't for weakening the joists with those big ole lags we could possibly hang a small car.

Try putting 1 #14 wood screw into a joist and pulling up with your weight. You may be surprised what it will hold. My money is on " it will hold you ".
 
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