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There are dozens of TRADES in your home - plumbing, electrical, landscape, and so on.
Which trade gives you the most troubles, repairs and expense?
For me it Plumbing (including irrigation).
 

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I also dislike plumbing although I dislike paying a plumber more.
I suspect the reason I dislike plumbing is leaks aren't a planned repair and almost always involve wet and awkward working conditions.
 

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Worst part of plumbing is disassembling the old stuff to install the new. My new favorite tool for this demo is my multi-tool oscillating saw.

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Worst part of plumbing is disassembling the old stuff to install the new. My new favorite tool for this demo is my multi-tool oscillating saw.

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You're right, on the package of Peerless kitchen faucet it says: The most difficult thing in this installation is removing the old faucet.
 

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I agree with plumbing. Usually it is for a repair so either it is overhead or in tight areas. The repair I am dreading is the copper lines that feed the basement bathroom and outside faucet. The lines run under the slab and come up through the bottom plate of the wall. I can see some corrosion on the line for the outside faucet where is comes through the concrete slab. To replace the lines I need to gut the interior walls of the bathroom, drill through the studs to run pen, and then repair the walls. Did I mention the walls are tiled. That isn't one of my strong areas to repair.
I hope to wait until the daughter heads off to college so we can do without that bathroom.

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When I was in the trades the one that I had to repair most often was framing. All the other trades have to work with the framing and having it right means a lot. There is nothing better than getting to a job where the framer did his work well.
As a county inspector I had problems with any trade that penetrated fire rated walls. Fire stopping penetrations was a big deal. Another was fan shutdown on fire alarm activation. The electrician ran wires, the fire alarm people made sure the alarm rang and the HVAC people made sure there was HVAC. No one thought to connect the fire alarm wires at the fan. At final inspection I had them turn on all the fans and initiate the fire alarm to test fan shutdown. It seldom worked the first time.
As a public school administrator it was any trade that created dust or that did hot work (grinding, torching, welding, etc.). They would set off the fire alarm and I had a couple of thousand kids out in winter weather without their coats. I came up with a hot work permit so they had to get permission to do hot work.
 
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Finish work, is by far my least favorite. I don't have the patience. Rough framing is more my speed. Plumbing is OK. I love sweating pipes, even if it is a lost art in these days of PEX. Admittedly, plumbing is not much fun when it involves awkward body positions. But you can say that about almost any job.

The best jobs are the ones you can start and finish in the same day, and leave with a sense of satisfaction.
 

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Plumbing,I hate it.Over the yrs I have had to make several repairs from unstopping drain lines due to unknown reasons(Grand kids had nothing to do with it) Another time roots had grown through a small opening in 4" coupling. Another time,dish washing soap that turned hard in 2" pvc drain lines. Then to top it off I installed a new vanity upstairs which had to redo plumbing. Installed a laminate flooring,so far so good right? Wrong,come home had water dripping from my ceiling,ran up stairs found the laminate flooring was buckle. Pulled up one piece and all under the new flooring the plywood was wet. No telling how long it was leaking before started dripping downstairs. Plumbing stinks
 

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Old Thomas touched on the worst.


Technology is by far the most prevalent for almost constant needs. The industry doesn't really have a set of standards, so the installers are always facing system bugs.


Put in today and it's a guarantee you will have a problem within months, weeks, or maybe even days.


Upgrades are nearly constant. :vs_whistle:
 

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Why is it, if it is going to quit working or break down or plug up, it is going to happen on Christmas Day often just at dinner time. It's always fun to listen to the doctor and lawyer arguing how to stop the fireplace from smoking up the house or how to reset breakers.

And for the best. if you have notched the double floor joist that holds up the floor around that fireplace, that is not a good place to line up all the overweight and elderly aunts and uncles for photo. There could have been some heart attacks as the floor went down maybe 1/4" when both joists split end to end with a good cracking noise.
 

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Finish work, is by far my least favorite. I don't have the patience
I like finish work ... and you are immediately rewarded seeing the finished product.


Why is it, if it is going to quit working or break down or plug up, it is going to happen on Christmas Day often just at dinner time
Back when my kids were little, I came home with pizza so we could eat and then go see the Christmas parade. But when I got home the kitchen sink faucet had fell apart so while they ate, I repaired it and turned the water back on. We made it to the parade on time but I hadn't eaten. One of the floats was from a local bakery. They tossed out miniature loaves of bread to the kids. I confiscated my son's loaf and ate it ..... while getting dirty looks from a lady in attendance.
 

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I estimate 80 percent of plumbing frustrations is because it must NOT be seen therefore difficult to maintain. 10 percent of the frustration is the screwed up sizing terms and the other 10 percent of people expecting it to be handy so most anything not wanted goes down the drain, grease, hair, you know the routine, and we haven't even gotten to the toilet section yet.:biggrin2:
 

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I hate roofing with a passion. It's hot, it's hot, and it's hot work.



Plumbing is not that bad. I have replaced a lots of galvanized pipes, lead pipes, and there is nothing better then you hear the pop when using the chain cutter on cast iron. I'm to the point that I like running the concrete saw. The thing I don't like about plumbing is the amount of different fittings and you need the right one for the inspection and even the IPC 2015 can be left to interpretation.



At one point in my life I loved plaster, but after doing 3 coats on 5,000 sq', 10' ceilings, wife calling for an antique finish, and the wife running away from her mud chick job I was done with it.


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I found that every water closet has it's own liking to the brand of TP. The down side is that you can get 4 of them with the same model number, 3 will love the TP you bought and the last one will hate the brand. You would of liked to see the manager at the big blue box store when my wife wanted to exchange water closets for the same model number because of this.
 

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Just for clarity, I think the heading should be "troublesome" (or maybe "frustrating") "task" rather than "trade", because it's not the trade that is troublesome. A trade, by definition and out in the world, typically involves persons trained and skilled in that particular line of work. Plumbing for example is not my favorite task to take on, and more often than not it's not cutting and threading pipe or sweating copper fittings that's frustrating but rather the knowledge to be able to get the right part the first time and proceed. I've said for years that plumbing tasks are "three trippers", meaning 3 trips to the hardware or supply house, and consequently it is not necessarily enjoyable every time. On the other hand, I have worked beside plumbers on both residential and commercial jobs, and sure, they have their gripes about the job conditions, the boss, the union, the wife, and all of the other things that the rest of us have, but they keep on working, it comes out just like it should, and I would go so far as to say that most of them enjoy what they do. And they must because they have a pretty good amount of time and money invested to get where they are. The same goes for all trades. Take Mark Sr here for example. I don't know if he has been to actual paint classes or anything like that, assume a few along the way, but he obviously enjoys painting, so he pays attention to things he has read and learned, it makes sense, and can offer what I consider expert advice to others. I would categorize him as a tradesman. Me, well, I would bet that given two identical rooms in an average home, something like my own, no vaulted ceilings and so on to deal with, I could make my room like just like his. But, not knowing all of the things he has learned over the years, I might spend close to an entire day to do what he did in a couple of hours, and I'll probably be twice as beat because he's used to it, paced himself, etc. So can I do the job myself, be totally satisfied when I am done, and keep the money that I might have otherwise spent? Yes, most definitely. Does that make me a tradesman? No.
 

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Just for clarity, I think the heading should be "troublesome" (or maybe "frustrating") "task" rather than "trade", because it's not the trade that is troublesome. A trade, by definition and out in the world, typically involves persons trained and skilled in that particular line of work.
I read trade as a swapping of one thing for another, as in horses, cars, wives, boats, and other things.

You are describing Professions.:vs_OMG:

Anyway, my worst nightmare is roofing, Now with my prosthetic, I am terrified of getting even 6" off the ground, it seems to like tossing me to the ground and laughing at me.

And roofing is so darned hard to find the inevitable leak.

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Finish work, is by far my least favorite. I don't have the patience. Rough framing is more my speed. Plumbing is OK. I love sweating pipes, even if it is a lost art in these days of PEX. Admittedly, plumbing is not much fun when it involves awkward body positions. But you can say that about almost any job.

The best jobs are the ones you can start and finish in the same day, and leave with a sense of satisfaction.
Right there with you.

My father and I do a lot of work together and I think he gets frustrated with me when doing finish work. He has patience for finish work - oddly enough. He has no patience for ANYTHING else.
 
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