[MLMIB]

I'm about to re-do a basement and I've noticed all the IC rated 4 inch recessed housing at both big box stores seem to be with LED connectors in them. I'm a bit nervous about the connector being a fad and that in 5-10 years I'll be stuck with a connector that no one uses anymore as the next thing has come out. Any one have any idea's on that?

looking for either

a) an option to buy a 10 pack or so of a decent 4 inch recessed can that is IC rated (it won't be against insulation to start, but I don't see a recent to not keep the option)

b) some reassurance that this is not some new standard that will be soon abandoned. It's the first time I've come across it and it seems to pretty well limit me to LED's which while I plan on using I'm not a fan of being hard limited to them.

Sorry for the odd post, just was surprised when looking tonight.

 

[123pugsy]

Sounds like the ones you are looking at have a built in transformer.

My 4" IC cans have the medium base sockets for any bulb you wish.
The LED trims/bulbs have a screw in adapter that fits any medium base light socket.

 

[Jim Port]

What is an LED connector? Are you talking about a push-in wire connector instead of wire nuts?

 

[MLMIB]

Sounds like the ones you are looking at have a built in transformer.

My 4" IC cans have the medium base sockets for any bulb you wish.
The LED trims/bulbs have a screw in adapter that fits any medium base light socket.

Do you have the model number for yours? maybe with amazon and/or google I can find someone who still stocks them

What is an LED connector? Are you talking about a push-in wire connector instead of wire nuts?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_525912-337-H995RICAT_1z0vgctZ1z0vlhuZ1z0y5pn__?productId=50149868&pl=1#img

thats the housing

and they seem to want to use these lights....

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay...10051&cmRelshp=rel&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1#img

with the orange connector. My concern is that it really does neck down my options for lights and if the standard ever moves (or they ever decide a ground should go to the light or something like that) I'm SOL.

 

[Jim Port]

That is a standard Edison bulb base. The entire LED module is removed and a standard bulb can be screwed in.

 

[123pugsy]

I may have screwed up. :surprise:
Mine were new construction cans.

 

[AllanJ]

The existence of a standard medium screw base socket that accepts incandescent lamps implies a wattage rating of so much which in turn implies a heat dissipation requirement of so much.

And nothing prevents someone from screwing in a lamp of higher wattage than the fixture is rated for.

Some manufactureres are unable or unwilling to design 4 inch recessed light fixtures that meet the IC rating that way so all of their offerings have a socket for LED lamps only for which there is not yet a socket standard.

Also, some states do not permit sale or installation of fixtures that exceed certain wattage ratings.

 

[Oso954]

Do not worry about that orange LED connector. It is going to be around for a long, long time.
Note on the listing that it says title 24 compliant. That is a reference to the Calif energy code. It requires high efficacy light fixtures that can not accept low efficacy bulbs be used in certain rooms (kitchens, baths, etc).

The can is an LED only can, built to take the Halo modules. It comes with one of the orange connectors hard wired in the can. There is no Edison socket in the can. When using this can and LED module combination, the pigtail adapter with the Edison screw gets tossed.

No it does not have a built in transformer or driver.