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Nothing is fool-proof, but that does not mean that something does not really work.

In general, the ones that have *smaller* holes, like Leaf Relief, DO work. They don't get easily clogged, and they are designed so that leaves either slip off or dry up and blow off, and smaller items like maple seedlings wash off the edge.

I agree the cheap ones you get at the hardware store, the curved open mesh with the clips on them are worse than worseless.
 

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I believe your right. I think i'm just adding work if i install these?
No...some save a little work...just none are fool proof and really work GREAT. I have tried plastic covers with holes (get clogged after a while). I have tried metal screens (get clogged after a while). I have tried brushes (get clogged and are messy to clean). I have tried gutta-guard (don't stay secured and gap is too small, allowing water to flow over). I now have a solid shield version, professionally installed. It is the best so far, but not as GREAT as I had hoped.

By my experience, all allow some material to get into gutters. They still require some cleaning out, or to be large enough gutters that debris flows through. Valleys can accumulate debris, causing water to run over, defeating purpose of gutters. All tend to increase tendency for ice damming. All require some level of maintenance, albeit reduced from open gutters.

Your experience may vary depending on types of trees and slope of roof.

By the way, I don't see much new in this area. Prior posts are still valid.
 

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No...some save a little work...just none are fool proof and really work GREAT. I have tried plastic covers with holes (get clogged after a while). I have tried metal screens (get clogged after a while). I have tried brushes (get clogged and are messy to clean). I have tried gutta-guard (don't stay secured and gap is too small, allowing water to flow over). I now have a solid shield version, professionally installed. It is the best so far, but not as GREAT as I had hoped.

By my experience, all allow some material to get into gutters. They still require some cleaning out, or to be large enough gutters that debris flows through. Valleys can accumulate debris, causing water to run over, defeating purpose of gutters. All tend to increase tendency for ice damming. All require some level of maintenance, albeit reduced from open gutters.

Your experience may vary depending on types of trees and slope of roof.

By the way, I don't see much new in this area. Prior posts are still valid.
Thank you for the reply, this does explain it better.

Bout the only reason i was thinking about this leaf guard stuff,[mine clean up in les than 20 minutes ] in my 100 long" home.I was getting up on the roof to much and got to thinking this might not be to good for it.So with the wife on one side and the roof on the other i was trying to get the best way and stay off the roof-----in fact i will carry this post up too "roofing" forum and see what they have to tell me , on this walking around on it. 2-3 times a yyear. thank you all for the very informative info on gutter guards cheers bob s
 

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Valleys can accumulate debris, causing water to run over, defeating purpose of gutters.
This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters:laughing:

 

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This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters:laughing:


Good One!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen to that scene, keepin em out:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Always good for a laugh!!!! thanks bob s
 

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Thank you for the reply, this does explain it better.

Bout the only reason i was thinking about this leaf guard stuff,[mine clean up in les than 20 minutes ] in my 100 long" home.I was getting up on the roof to much and got to thinking this might not be to good for it.So with the wife on one side and the roof on the other i was trying to get the best way and stay off the roof-----in fact i will carry this post up too "roofing" forum and see what they have to tell me , on this walking around on it. 2-3 times a yyear. thank you all for the very informative info on gutter guards cheers bob s
I had gutter guards installed above the second floor dormer windows for precisely this reason, as well as the fact that I'm getting too old to be comfortable trotting around up there. The first floor gutters I can clean out easily with a ladder and if I do it 3-4 time per year it takes me less than half an hour start to finish.
 

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This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters:laughing:

Can't really see what the openings look like but they look big enough to allow stuff to get caught in them. I think smaller openings work better.

And I think those photos are misleading. The idea behind perforated gutter guards is that leaves dry up and blow off of them (as opposed to being pushed over the edge as they are on solid guards). There are a lot of leaves strewn around the roof which tells me that there has not been a decent stiff breeze since all those leaves fell. It would probably blow most of them off. But it does look like those guards in particular would clog easily with smaller leaves and seed pods.
 

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WRONG, my friend (with all due respect)

THE Perfect Gutter Guard!

The GUTTER MONKEY! from Ronco.

Cleans leaves, pine needles, maple seeds, pine cones and small varmints!

Works 24/7 365 days a year (just keep supplied with bananas).

Only $99.95

What happens when the neighbor takes shootin practice on him. Go lowes and get another guard :laughing::laughing::gun_bandana:
 

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I went looking at the flat ones at Lowe's today. Did not like them, due to they are plastic. I have the helicopters, and the stamped steel screens that I have on my gutters irritate the hell out of me during the Spring, but it is only a couple of weeks to deal with those buggers.
 

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I went looking at the flat ones at Lowe's today. Did not like them, due to they are plastic. I have the helicopters, and the stamped steel screens that I have on my gutters irritate the hell out of me during the Spring, but it is only a couple of weeks to deal with those buggers.
pretty standar answer i have those the female kind they get brown but fall a bit faster than the male,so you have the same thing two weeks of work.I used to get 5 garbage cans of those when i lived in town. Between me my wife and three boys-it was a usuall occurence every summer picking those suckers up MAN i hated that.We would pick them up after a rain-none of them got away this way.
 

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Cleaning gutters is a pain, I have a hill that's parallel to the gutter that's almost 30 feet up. Still, I'd rather clean the gutters ONLY, as opposed to removing guards, cleaning the guards, cleaning the gutters too, then reinstalling the guards. I live in the woods & sometimes have to clean them at least 2 or 3 times in both the spring & the fall. I think it really depends on the type of trees & how many you have.
 

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Cleaning gutters is a pain, I have a hill that's parallel to the gutter that's almost 30 feet up. Still, I'd rather clean the gutters ONLY, as opposed to removing guards, cleaning the guards, cleaning the gutters too, then reinstalling the guards. I live in the woods & sometimes have to clean them at least 2 or 3 times in both the spring & the fall. I think it really depends on the type of trees & how many you have.

All depends where your house sits /////the trees got here first:whistling2:
 

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Many factors of course. Type of leaf,how much rainfall,steepness of roof. But how about for an unlimited budget one goes with one of the gutter sponges and a cover. The sponges work good but hey are pricey and also break down in sunlight which is why I am thinking to also install one of the cover types which don't keep out small debris but would protect the sponge. This system I believe would last for years w/o maintenance.
One other thing certain leaves are not good for metal, oak leaves primarily which contain tannic acids which degrades metal. I have painted many gutters inside with roof emulsion or better yet that stuff that they have been showing on TV that you spray and seals like a mofo.
 

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I guess i'm kinda on the fence with most of them, and just need somebody push me off the fence, to decide what i need.I was thinking the screens would stop all the big leaves -but the small particles, which we have a ton more of would /or might, plug up in just s short time.anyone else and thank you creeper bob s
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I know one place called Leaf Guard in Knoxville, TN who says if their gutters stop up they will come and clean them out. They wanted 3000.00 to change my gutters out so I choose not to since the tornade got my two large maple trees in the front yard and thus no more leaves. I do have 1 large maple in the back but as soon as the leaves start falling I get to mulching so they will not blow into my pool.

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I know one place called Leaf Guard in Knoxville, TN who says if their gutters stop up they will come and clean them out.
I believe this is a pretty common promise. I have never been very impressed by this. It is pretty easy to design a gutter that doesn't stop up: simply allow nothing (including water) into them.

None of the many systems I have tried have allowed the gutters to get stopped up. The problems I have found are less about gutters clogging up, but whether the system consistently allows rain water into the gutters. Whether clogged screens, or leaves that bridge the openings or your gutter helmets, the bigger problem is keeping water flowing into the gutters and not OVER your gutters and into your foundation.

The winner of this competition is the one who keeps gutters clear AND keeps water contained with least amount of effort.

one goes with one of the gutter sponges and a cover.
I don't think I would do this even on an unlimited budget. Even with a cover, some debris gets through and would, in my estimation, eventually clog up your sponge. I think it better to let the debris that gets through to flow down the spouting. One feature of the system I had installed was a metal basked filter on all downspouts. They are all reachable without a ladder, come out without tools, and can be cleaned in about 10 seconds each. Debris that gets into the system is stopped here and not allowed into the underground network of piping I have. This works very well, in my estimation.

One thing I WOULD consider if on unlimited budget would be heaters for the spouting. At this point, ice damming is a bigger problem.
 

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If I had unlimited budget leaves in my gutters would be way down on my list of worries.

I'm not a professional., But I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
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