l6-30 to L14-30

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lowevoltage

Discussion Starter · Dec 25, 2015

Hi,
I am trying to find out if I can connect a generator to a manual transfer switch without the neutral wire intact.

Here's the situation
I have a 7kw portalable gen set with a professionally installed manual transfer switch with L14-30 plugs on each side (2Hot, 1 Neutral 1 ground).

I just had a long (30+ hour outage) and found that some of my electronics really did not like the voltage variance that the generator provided.

So I picked up a Furman AR2330d voltage regulator used from a roadshow that just ended. This is a pro audio voltage regulator that is meant to plug between a generator and a stage amp setup and provide clean regulated voltage for electronics. It is supposed to have an 2 L14-30 (in and out's) on them. Someone altered the unit to have 2 L6-30 on it (2 hots and a ground).

I see they sell l14-30 to l6-30 adapters which simply omits the ground.
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The question:
Can I used a couple of these adapters that omit the neutral wire between the generator and the transfer switch do I create a problem for myself given the neutral and ground are bonded at the circuit panel.

Thanks for your help. Merry Christmas.

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Jump-start

· #2 · Dec 26, 2015

No, you need a neutral. You can not use the ground as a neutral otherwise its both an electrocution and potential fire hazard.

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Speedy Petey

· #3 · Dec 26, 2015

I'd get someone to un-alter them back to original.

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lowevoltage

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 30, 2015

Thanks for the input. I have put a call into the manufactures tech support (furman)

I did make a mistake the L6-30 to l14-30 adapters omits the neutral not the ground.

This got me thinking.

The neutral and Ground are bonded on the Generator and at the service panel.

Normally the 2 hots connect from the generator to the manual transfer switch and are switched to individual circuits (bypassing the main circuit breakers)

The neutral and ground are bonded at the generator,

The neutral flows from the generator to the neutral bar, the ground flows from the Generator to the ground bar. As it is a main service panel the ground and and neutral are bonded, do I really need a neutral leg from the generator to the main panel since ground and neutral are bonded at both the generator and at the main panel

I realize this is a odd ball situation but Im i want to make sure my thinking makes sense when I speak to their tech support

Thanks!

lowevoltage said:
Hi,
I am trying to find out if I can connect a generator to a manual transfer switch without the neutral wire intact.

Here's the situation
I have a 7kw portalable gen set with a professionally installed manual transfer switch with L14-30 plugs on each side (2Hot, 1 Neutral 1 ground).

I just had a long (30+ hour outage) and found that some of my electronics really did not like the voltage variance that the generator provided.

So I picked up a Furman AR2330d voltage regulator used from a roadshow that just ended. This is a pro audio voltage regulator that is meant to plug between a generator and a stage amp setup and provide clean regulated voltage for electronics. It is supposed to have an 2 L14-30 (in and out's) on them. Someone altered the unit to have 2 L6-30 on it (2 hots and a ground).

I see they sell l14-30 to l6-30 adapters which simply omits the ground (not ground, the neutral).
------------
The question:
Can I used a couple of these adapters that omit the neutral wire between the generator and the transfer switch do I create a problem for myself given the neutral and ground are bonded at the circuit panel.

Thanks for your help. Merry Christmas.

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