[t1snwbrdr12]

Hi,

I've been searching through threads d passed couple nights and not completely found the info I've been looking for so figured I'd start my own.

Taking out this fluorescent light and getting 5" cans with led retrofits this Monday. Trying to figure out layout though. I can arrange 3 to make sense to me but can't help but wonder if we need more than 3. I've searched Zillow for homes with this layout in my neighborhood and come up with some that have 3, some with 6 or more even. None of them have this sprinkler head situated the same as me though.

Anyways. I wonder should I install one to right of stove, center two to each side of the sink, and have two pendants above the island? Should I do more recessed lights than that, making two more, one at pantry and one in front of fridge? The pendants aren't in question, just wanted you guys to know we'll have them.

As you can see there's already one can above the sink. The new ones, from my research, should be placed about 3 feet out from the walls.

The ceiling are 9 foot. Cabinets are 14" deep. Counters are 25-26" deep. Undercabinet strip lighting will be going in soon after as well, but I wouldn't want to place the recessed lights where they'll cast a shadow when working at the counters either.

 

[t1snwbrdr12]

Sorry, it won't let me upload. Keeps telling me I'm not logged in. Hopefully it starts working soon.

 

[Arrow3030]

How big is the kitchen? 30-40 lumens per square foot is a good rule. We perceive brightness by looking at walls so 3 feet should be max. Since pendants and under cabs are being used, you can probably get away with three cans.

 

[t1snwbrdr12]

It's about 10' by 11' but in an L shape and very open to the dining area. I can't make this app allow me to post a picture. It's allowed me to plenty of times before I don't know what the deal is, sorry.

 

[t1snwbrdr12]

Now pictures are uploading. Weird. The app didn't need to be updated or anything but oh well. We ended up with 3 5" cans with halo led retrofits in 2700k. Still working on finishing the ceiling but we are happy with the result and the fact that I could return over a hundred dollars worth of supplies.

 

[Know A Little]

Now pictures are uploading. Weird. The app didn't need to be updated or anything but oh well. We ended up with 3 5" cans with halo led retrofits in 2700k. Still working on finishing the ceiling but we are happy with the result and the fact that I could return over a hundred dollars worth of supplies.]

Who is doing the install?
Where did you get the fixtures?

Often local supply houses have light consultants that will assist you with design if you purchase the lights from them.

 

[t1snwbrdr12]

An electrician in my neighborhood did the install. We came up with the layout ourselves after much research online and consideration for undercabinet lighting I'll be doing.

Electric supply houses here didn't have housings in stock and weren't helpful at all to me when going in. They seemed to just want to serve the electricians who knew exactly what they wanted. They'd quote me anything I asked for but had no advice to give except as to what parts they had right there to sell me for what i asked for.

They weren't interested in quoting anything that wasn't normal stock. From my research a lot of what they kept wasn't bright/enough lumens for what I wanted to do. Their undercab lights are only like 70 lumens a foot and I've read you want at least 150/foot. I understand they don't hear complaints, and they sell name brand quality parts, but their real customer is the electrician. The home owner has no clue where to complain to when they don't like the quality of their lights.

A designer lighting supply I checked out was absolutely absurd in their prices. And didn't seem to be the people to ask for help in design. It was like the money/accounting lady and her son who might've been 20 running the show. Their only questions were led or normal and showed me the brightest white lights you'd ever seen and kept telling me how awesome they are.

 

[tommy16]

To light the kitchen with recessed lights you have to divide the kitchen room into sections to easily determine the number of lights. after that you have to know how to space recessed lights.try to use wide beam angle bulbs for general lighting and narrow beam angle bulbs for task lighting.

 

[Arrow3030]

Looking good. For under cabs I usually install 6 watts per foot with a dimmer. 3 watts a foot could work though. I don't recommend more than 6/foot as that much light isn't needed

 

[leo22]

To light the kitchen with recessed lights you have to divide the kitchen room into sections to easily determine the number of lights. after that you have to know how to space recessed lights.try to use wide beam angle bulbs for general lighting and narrow beam angle bulbs for task lighting.

I would recommend dividing the kitchen into sections for large kitchens only, but is better to apply light layering for general, task, and accent purposes. The kitchen recessed lighting can help you to know more about light layering.