Kilz paint?

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amberd521

Discussion Starter · May 3, 2011

My husband and I used Kilz in our daughters room however now we cant find it anywhere. Loved that it only took one coat on our textured walls. Does anyone happen to know where it can be bought besides Walmart and Lowes? If not, any suggestions on a good one coat paint would be appreciated. Was told by the gentlemen at Lowes that Valspar was a good one coat paint, however the sample we tried tells us it would take atleast two.

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Gymschu

· #2 · May 3, 2011

Rarely does any paint cover in one coat........however, SW's Harmony paint comes pretty close.

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Ironlight

· #3 · May 3, 2011

Where to buy it:

http://www.masterchem.com/masterchem/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=1d0f90033f9ff110VgnVCM1000008a05d103RCRD

I have bought it at Ace Hardware.

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jsheridan

· #4 · May 3, 2011

I wasn't aware that Kilz made anything but primer. The problem with one coat, and this applies to every paint/color, is that sheen and color are underdeveloped. With color, one coat is not sufficient to fully block the previous color and it is still influencing your perception. Also, the first coat seals the surface. Some of the sheen is absorbed by the previous finish, and the second coat is where the sheen develops. This is true even over an aged sheen, because the surface has degraded. I did a job a few months back with BM Aura Matte, in a dark brown. As nice as the first coat looked, when the second cut-in went on there was a day/night difference in both color and finish appearance. If your only interest is putting some color on a wall, you're fine, and it has its place. But, if you're interested in a quality, decorative finish, in your chosen color, you're coming up short. One coat coverage, IMO, is a fool's errand.

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amberd521

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 3, 2011

Thanks. Unfortunetly the Kilz primer is all that I can find now. We probably will end up going to SW or getting the Valspar and using two coats. Our daughters room is the only room that has been painted so far and this is our first house, so needless to say that was the first time we had ever painted. We thought it turned out pretty well but it went from a flat white to a (against my better judgement) bright pepto bismo like pink. Jsheridan- you gave me some advice a couple days ago about my open floor plan. You definitely seem to know your stuff. What type finish would you use? The satin sample we tried in milk chocolate seems a bit shiny. However im worried eggshell isnt going to be easily cleanable. With a 7 year old little girl, and 3 year old twin boys, I really need it to be easy cleaned. Also, what would you use for the baseboards? Ours are flat white and collect dirt and dust very easily.

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jsheridan

· #6 · May 3, 2011

amberd521 said:
Thanks. Unfortunetly the Kilz primer is all that I can find now. We probably will end up going to SW or getting the Valspar and using two coats. Our daughters room is the only room that has been painted so far and this is our first house, so needless to say that was the first time we had ever painted. We thought it turned out pretty well but it went from a flat white to a (against my better judgement) bright pepto bismo like pink. Jsheridan- you gave me some advice a couple days ago about my open floor plan. You definitely seem to know your stuff. What type finish would you use? The satin sample we tried in milk chocolate seems a bit shiny. However im worried eggshell isnt going to be easily cleanable. With a 7 year old little girl, and 3 year old twin boys, I really need it to be easy cleaned. Also, what would you use for the baseboards? Ours are flat white and collect dirt and dust very easily.

Thanks for your confidence and kind words Amber, much appreciated. I'm generally not a fan of sheen paint for walls, and really only use it for protection or a decorative effect. It highlights imperfection, throws too much light around (espcially in an area of your size, and with the long views it provides, it could create a vegas like atmosphere), and becomes an attraction unto itself, as opposed to simply being a backdrop/canvas for your decor. I don't think sheens are as warm as flats either, imo. You certainly need the protection, especially with the terror twins. If it was a small room where the dynamic duo were bouncing from one wall to the next, a satin might be necessary. But, in a large room I think a matte finish, which is washable, would suffice, and put an eggshell in the kitchen (smaller room, closer contact with walls). Ben Moore makes a nice matte finish, which would have a definite slight angular sheen, but much less than satin, which is one step higher than eggshell. Or, and I'm going to get flamed for this, I like Behr flat enamel, though some people don't know how to use it. For trim flat is a definite no-no. My go to for trim is usually satin as I'm a long time BM Satin Impervo (oil) junkie. The latex Impervo is a real nice finish. And I use semi and gloss from time to time, but I generally don't like too much of a sheen jump between the walls and trim. I like subtle distinctions, except as stated, when looking for decorative effect. Thanks again, good luck.
Now I gotta get ready for Chrisn, he'll be by soon:laughing:, someone mentioned Behr, and he's got a nose like a bear for Behr.

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chrisn

· #7 · May 3, 2011

jsheridan said:
Thanks for your confidence and kind words Amber, much appreciated. I'm generally not a fan of sheen paint for walls, and really only use it for protection or a decorative effect. It highlights imperfection, throws too much light around (espcially in an area of your size, and with the long views it provides, it could create a vegas like atmosphere), and becomes an attraction unto itself, as opposed to simply being a backdrop/canvas for your decor. I don't think sheens are as warm as flats either, imo. You certainly need the protection, especially with the terror twins. If it was a small room where the dynamic duo were bouncing from one wall to the next, a satin might be necessary. But, in a large room I think a matte finish, which is washable, would suffice, and put an eggshell in the kitchen (smaller room, closer contact with walls). Ben Moore makes a nice matte finish, which would have a definite slight angular sheen, but much less than satin, which is one step higher than eggshell. Or, and I'm going to get flamed for this, I like Behr flat enamel, though some people don't know how to use it. For trim flat is a definite no-no. My go to for trim is usually satin as I'm a long time BM Satin Impervo (oil) junkie. The latex Impervo is a real nice finish. And I use semi and gloss from time to time, but I generally don't like too much of a sheen jump between the walls and trim. I like subtle distinctions, except as stated, when looking for decorative effect. Thanks again, good luck.
Now I gotta get ready for Chrisn, he'll be by soon:laughing:, someone mentioned Behr, and he's got a nose like a bear for Behr.

Who, me? I am restrained as always.:whistling2:

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