[majestique]

What do you guys think of this quote for Andersen SilverLine Windows? This includes labor and it is after tax. The contractor said this includes discounts as well.

The house has 16 windows and a sliding door.

1. 72x48
2. 96x48
3. 46x43
4.72x48
5. 72x24
6. 96x80 (Atrium Sliding Door)
7. 72x48
8. 60x48
9. 36x48
10. 36x48
11. 47x48
12. 72x18
13. 24x36
14. 72x42
15. 48x16
16. 72x42
17. 72x42

The quote is $14k (after taxes and discounts).

What do you guys think? Is the quote fair?

Thanks in advance!

 

[jerryh3]

Aren't you the contractor?

 

[majestique]

No, I'm a consumer.. my parents just finished with the wood flooring, and now they want to work on the windows.. the contractor said Andersen windows are the top of the line.. I did a little research and found out this to be true.. but I don't know about their SilverLine series. we have about 6 small windows.. and wonder if this is a fair quote..

 

[794613]

Just a consideration, I bought silverline windows through a family friend from Century Building Supply out of Sycamore, IL. I went with their new construction vinyl single hung windows with all of the energy efficiency stuff. Anyhow, I only had 2 sizes of windows in the house, 32 x 54, and
64 x 54. I believe I was able to get the 32 x 54 for $120.00/ea, and the 64 x 54 for about 240.00.

Hope that helps,
- Jim

 

[majestique]

basically.. i should do it myself it looks like.. $823 per window is too much..

 

[Sephora]

Andersen is your basic window co. Pella, Harvey, Marvin are all top of the line. My best friends husband owns a Window co and all he talks about are windows.

 

[Aggie67]

It depends.

Is this a replacement job? What kind of work is being done to the opening? Are these drop in replacements, or are you cutting the old trim out down to the framing?

I do these kinds of estimates for contractors and property owners for a living. If all they are doing is taking out the old windows and installing new vinyl replacements and trimming out the gaps, I'd have to say it's quite high. If they're doing an extensive job of taking out the old window frame, and doing extensive repairs inside and out, it's a maybe. I'd have to see both sides of the openings.

And you'll have to bear with my cynicism when I say I suspect the OP is a contractor pricing out his first window job and - absent of any estimating experience - he's looking for a sanity check. I've seen that too many times.

 

[majestique]

Aggie67, thanks for your feedback, it's not a replacement job but a complete cutting down of old trimmings to the framing... It's definitely not just removal of the windows, we're getting vinyl frames too. They basically told us that the Andersen SilverLines are the rolls royce; however, after searching a bit, it seems like the Marvins are the top of the line. Pella shouldn't be trusted, Andersens are ok.

The sales guy was a bit pushy, quoting us before even doing any kind of measurement, only after we agreed to pay then he would do the measurements -- so he's really not interested in taking care of us. We'll cancel this order since we have a 3 day cancellation period.

The price is obviously not a deal, so we'll pass.

Regarding if I'm a contractor, I don't know what to say.. I'm just doing the research for my parents.. $14k is a lot to invest in a home.. makes sense new contractors doing this though.. but then.. does it really matter? they can just post in contractortalk.com

 

[Scuba_Dave]

I don't consider Pella top of the line :no:

 

[majestique]

I don't consider Pella top of the line :no:

Neither do I, looks like Marvin is up there.. Andersen too depending on their series..

 

[Zel1]

What is the exterior of the house? Does alot of capping and trim need to be replaced along with the windows? if there is existing siding with the old window flange behind the siding, then the siding would need to be cut, capped boards would need to be installed, etc. What about the interior? are all the window openings going to require drywall repairs, wood trim repairs, etc?

 

[HomeSealed]

Silverlines are bargain basement windows. If you are looking for a quality vinyl window you have the wrong brands in mind. Great Lakes, Thermal Industries, Gorell, Sunrise, Revere/Alside are all higher end vinyl windows that I'd expect for the price he wanted to charge.

 

[majestique]

What is the exterior of the house? Does alot of capping and trim need to be replaced along with the windows? if there is existing siding with the old window flange behind the siding, then the siding would need to be cut, capped boards would need to be installed, etc. What about the interior? are all the window openings going to require drywall repairs, wood trim repairs, etc?

lol you lost me there.. I think it's pretty standard, the guy didn't really mention anything special..

 

[majestique]

Silverlines are bargain basement windows. If you are looking for a quality vinyl window you have the wrong brands in mind. Great Lakes, Thermal Industries, Gorell, Sunrise, Revere/Alside are all higher end vinyl windows that I'd expect for the price he wanted to charge.

Thanks for your input.. I cancelled the order.. the guy was using some pushy tactics.. luckily we have a 3 day cancellation law..

 

[Zel1]

I was just trying to come up with some logical reason the price would be so high per window. If it wasnt the actual cost of the window, it would have to be some extra cost associated with the labor, or so it would seem.

 

[Ron6519]

This would be a capital improvement. There should be no sales tax.
Ron

 

[majestique]

Still too expensive, the energy company doesn't really cover the cost that much...

 

[EmilyP]

Still too expensive, the energy company doesn't really cover the cost that much...

Reading all the posts and trying to come with justfying paying so much... Sounds like you did the right thing in backing out of your agreement. I sell Marvin and Andersen also most everyday...I think you could have had either installed for that price.... or close too it Renewal by Andersen is about $950 to $1200 a hole depending on the window, still little pricey. But, like what one of the posts added...it depends on how much work has to be done to install these windows (capping, finishing the outside, molding replacement on the inside, cusotm made jambs, etc...)... I would recommend wood over vinyl - Marvin then Andersen... they are close in price and quality when you are comparing Marvins DH to the Andersen Woodwright (not 400 Series Tilt Wash) I think Andersen has a better patio door-Marvin has a better Casement Window, Marvin has more options, Andersen is more affordable. I would get at least 3 quotes maybe more...not all in the same day..it might confuse you.. take notes from each visit from each contractor or installer... Silver Line is a little better than most people think.. but Siminton then Allsides, then maybe GreatLakes then Silver Line. Silver Windows 9500 Series and 8500 Series are really above most in quality. But, I do not think Andersen WIndows really wants to put their name on that window...They bought them 2 or 3 three years ago...and there has been no changes to the window or they have not put their Name on it for a reason...VINYL is still VINYL plastic... yes maybe more economicail but still vinyl windows aren't really that great compared to most wood windows.... Do your homework, get several quotes and ask many questions as possible... read the fine print...remember you "hope" to replace these windows once....I been selling windows since 1992...the vinyl segment is growing every year... wood clad is flat in sales but it still the fair better choice -no matter what- no matter the warranty- regardless...Most wood windows should last you 20 to 40 years especially the Marvins or Andersens Woodwrights...most vinyl companies are here today and gone tomorrow..lifetime could mean as long as they are in business... here today gone tomorrow..and then you will be hoodwinkled :huh:..no need for that..good luck

 

[joemal]

To majestique

Be very careful, price is not everything! Fact is you could get a window that you'll get service on for the same price! I am a contractor who used to deal with silverline before the owner sold it to Anderson windows 5 or 6 years ago! Now they charge more and give you less. You will be sick when you call to get a seal failure fixed as what is the biggest service problem on the vinyl replacement thermal pane windows. 2 years ago a customer of mine needed service on a patio door. I called silverline and sent the service to them multiple times over a 6 month period and finally had to have the customer call too, after finally having to threaten them the part was delivered. If you want a great product, go Alside! I don't even buy from them anymore but they are great, I've done windows for almost 30 years and that is the window that went into my own house and I can buy any window at dealer pricing. I went with the best! They have labels at the top of every window and you give them the number on that label, they'll UPS a sash to you and it takes all of 30 seconds to install it because of the superior balancer shoes they use on the windows!!
Hope this helps, joemal

 

[joemal]

Be very careful, price is not everything! Fact is you could get a window that you'll get service on for the same price! I am a contractor who used to deal with silverline before the owner sold it to Anderson windows 5 or 6 years ago! Now they charge more and give you less. You will be sick when you call to get a seal failure fixed as what is the biggest service problem on the vinyl replacement thermal pane windows. 2 years ago a customer of mine needed service on a patio door. I called silverline and sent the service to them multiple times over a 6 month period and finally had to have the customer call too, after finally having to threaten them the part was delivered. If you want a great product, go Alside! I don't even buy from them anymore but they are great, I've done windows for almost 30 years and that is the window that went into my own house and I can buy any window at dealer pricing. I went with the best! They have labels at the top of every window and you give them the number on that label, they'll UPS a sash to you and it takes all of 30 seconds to install it because of the superior balancer shoes they use on the windows!!
Hope this helps, joemal

Some one replied with go Marvin, and you bet! If you want to pay more, disassemble the windows to stain the entire unit and get a 10 year glass only warranty.. go wood! But again read the warranty typically the wood is not warrantied AT ALL!