[federer]

Ok. first off i want to thank everyone for their previous input. please understand that i truly do appreciate all of you taking a look and putting in your 2 cents.

anyways we got an easier one for you guys today: so there is an interior wall dividing up 2 rooms. we want to take it down. we removed some of the paneling, and see that it's built with 2 frames. one for the wall, and then a header at the top. so just want to be sure it's safe before we knock it down.

 

[federer]

here is what's behind paneling

 

[federer]

here is direct look down into subfloor?

 

[joecaption]

That's not a header, way to flimsy.
Step back and let us see where the doubled up studs are sitting at the top.
Could be there holding something up or just where they build two differant sections of wall and they nailed them together there.

 

[federer]

That's not a header, way to flimsy.
Step back and let us see where the doubled up studs are sitting at the top.
Could be there holding something up or just where they build two differant sections of wall and they nailed them together there.

right. i used header for lack of better word. it looks like they framed it just to make the height fit since the first framed wall was only 8ft tall.

 

[federer]

here you go joe! is this what you wanted?

 

[Duckweather]

Hold your breath Joe, it looks like those 2x4's are in between two joists if you look in that crack. I don't even see any deck sheathing. Good old trick photography may be all that is holding it up.

 

[federer]

Hold your breath Joe, it looks like those 2x4's are in between two joists if you look in that crack. I don't even see any deck sheathing. Good old trick photography may be all that is holding it up.

thanks for taking a look. so you mean the joists is holding up the wall? yea i dont really see a subfloor it just seems to be a gap

 

[federer]

further back. sorry bad camera phone

 

[federer]

anyone else? does the double top plate on the paneled wall mean its load bearing?

 

[federer]

UPDATE: I went up and took a closer look. so above the 'header' there is a gap between the rafters and the wall itself. in fact the rafters are sitting on top of furring strips. so this leads me to believe the wall is not load bearing.
in this pic i am showing the furring strip itself, with a drop down ceiling wedged into the gap between strip and teh wall. teh rafters actually sit on top of these furring strips

 

[federer]

this is a step back. you can see the 2 rafters in this picture running perpendicular to teh strips. the gap is a good inch to the wall

 

[GreenBoyz]

I like the foam insulation. Did you do it yourself

 

[federer]

no we had someone spray it

 

[federer]

what i dont understand is, i am pretty sure the furring strips were nailed to the rafters after, when they decided to install the drop down ceiling. so my guess is the rafter just runs to the edge of the exterior wall, which i can tell is what its doing. they hover above the wall in question. does this make sense?

 

[federer]

bottom line is, this wall is not load bearing. going to f*cking tear it down this weekend

 

[oh'mike]

I don't think that is load bearing---the 12" extension was added many years after the original framing---

Your pictures were to close up for me to see what it would be holding up---

 

[federer]

I don't think that is load bearing---the 12" extension was added many years after the original framing---

Your pictures were to close up for me to see what it would be holding up---

let me take a pic for you mike. thanks

 

[federer]

this is what it looks like above the 'header"

 

[federer]

this is other side , closest to exterior wall